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Has this sort of thing been argued in court as an ADA issue? I could understand why using Linux might be considered legally a "choice", but if there's better AD
by chaps 5y ago
Has this sort of thing been argued in court as an ADA issue? I could understand why using Linux might be considered legally a "choice", but if there's better ADA compliant tooling in Linux over windows, then a legal argument might just exist..
- geocrasher 5y agoUnless one was to claim that Tux is their emotional support animal, I doubt it. Linux on the desktop has usability issues for able bodied people. I strongly doubt it has any edge on MacOS or Windows when it comes to accessibility.
- chaps 5y agoSure, but usability issues aren't necessarily issues under ADA.
- Closi 5y agoUnless we have more details about this claim we can’t be sure, but it seems like the ADA claim is probably well-intentioned but also not correct. Chase does not have to implement a specific solution to a users problem, they have to make a reasonable adjustment - I.e. you can install a small ramp if someone asked for a lift. Depending on the issue raised, chase may feel they have a reasonable way of providing the services - for instance if the user is blind and uses some specific Linux screen reader then telephone banking may also be a reasonable adjustment rather than Linux support. Chase may see supporting Linux for all users because of one persons disability as an ‘unreasonable’ adjustment (I don’t see the issue, but this is approximately how the claim would work). To be open I’m not exactly sure how ADA works as I’m more familiar with UK legislation.
- R0b0t1 5y agoFor an ADA claim it shouldn't matter. You're usually not asked to demonstrate your disability. There are people who only use Linux in textmode.
- franga2000 5y agoSure, but I'd be surprised if any modern web app worked in TUI browsers.
- R0b0t1 5y agoA lot of them do if the text is scraped. Lack of scrapable text is an ADA issue.
- franga2000 5y agoA JS app can be perfectly accessible (if written correctly), despite giving a CLI browser nothing but a "please turn on JS" page. Both Firefox and Google Chrome support powerful screen readers and other accessibility features based on an open standard. A site using these would surely be ADA-compliant
- R0b0t1 5y agoYou can't dictate a specific solution. It probably hasn't happened yet but someone who exclusively uses the FOSS software probably has grounds to request flat text. Flat text may be better with current hardware, who knows. A business is going to have a hard time arguing that providing text is unreasonable.
- Closi 5y agoYou will need to state what the specific issue is for yourself/someone else though, rather than just what you want the solution to be.
- lmm 5y agoA greater focus on scriptability and customizability might make it a better OS for people with some disabilities. Certainly I've heard that at one point Linux was the only OS you could use in Welsh, for example (not that that's a disability, but it's similar in terms of being a minority need).
- tapland 5y agoIt shouldn't be allowed to ban web access from all free operating systems ;)
- number6 5y agoThis gave me the idea to ban all non-free systems: "You are using a non-free Operation System and thus signing away you fundamental rightsas a user. Please use a free Operationsystem like GNU/Linux to access this website."
- kafkaIncarnate 5y agoBut then you run into the issue of half of websites blocking free operating systems and half (haha) of websites blocking non-free operating systems. At that point we'll need a user-agent switcher that is website aware to know which sites need which user-agents. Like secret hand signals to get into your secret clubs. I'll just pass and not use any of it at that point.
- joshuaissac 5y ago> At that point we'll need a user-agent switcher that is website aware to know which sites need which user-agents. Microsoft Edge already has something like this built in to get around Google's user agent checks.