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You don't have to accept wires to not have buds. There are 4 options: 1. Wireless buds 2. Wireless non-buds (some sort of wrap-around design to keep them on)

You don't have to accept wires to not have buds. There are 4 options: 1. Wireless buds 2. Wireless non-buds (some sort of wrap-around design to keep them on) 3. Wired buds 4. Wired non-buds I go with (2) personally, but mainly because Apple stopped me using wires. My main problem with bluetooth is that the headphones aren't loud enough (yeah you have to watch the line between loud and damaging but headphones are my opportunity to play music loud). Recommendations for loud wireless headphones appreciated!

aksss 5y ago
Is it really a volume issue or a) an equalization issue; b) a background noise issue; c) both? Some BT buds will let you futz with an equalizer (jabra). It really influences the experience of what you’re listening to, for instance different genres of music and pure voice.
joecot 5y ago
Whenever I've done it I've always gone with #2, wireless non buds. I've gotten multiple pairs. While they don't get lost, I have always ended up with two fundamental problems with them #1 Bluebooth connectivity to computers. If I was just using my phone they were mostly fine, but at a computer it was a constant fight to get them to connect, to work with whatever app I'm using, and especially when I'm switching back and forth between using them for listening to music or using them to video conference. This might also be partly because Linux is my main driver, but having to switch back and forth between high quality audio output for music and two way cell phone quality audio sucks. #2 Having owned multiple pairs over the years, none of them would connect over Bluetooth while charging. Let me make my wireless headphones temporarily wired. At this point I use an over the ear headphone with a mic and a USB DAC. I specifically only get phones with a minijack so I could use them with that too.
- thrashh 5y ago
  #1 is because your BT drivers suck. The Mac’s BT driver seamlessly switches fine and I don’t have connection issues. I actually don’t have connection issues on Windows either, but it does have the switching problem.
  - kelnos 5y ago
    Not everyone uses a Mac, and I expect that most people aren't going to change OSes (and app ecosystems) just to get wireless headphones to work well. Less disruptive to just use wires.
- mrighele 5y ago
  For #1 I would blame linux. It's bluetooth stack is... let's say less than stellar, expecially for headsets. I always have to fiddle to get my headset to work, while it works perfectly with any other OS I tried (MacOS, iOS, Android, Windows). #2: True, but usually the battery of a pair of headphones last much longer than earbuds, in my case at least 4 days, so I just put them in charge at night
ddingus 5y ago
I stopped upgrading phones for a while and bought a backup. Audio matters to me. Can't own a device with no analog jack.
no1lives4ever 5y ago
Now this is very likely not what you are really looking for, but the airpods pro in noise cancellation mode can allow you to play music at much higher aparent loudness thanks to the noise cancellation. You may want to try that out.
driverdan 5y ago
BT headphones get plenty loud enough. Anything louder will cause hearing damage.

aksss 5y ago

Is it really a volume issue or a) an equalization issue; b) a background noise issue; c) both? Some BT buds will let you futz with an equalizer (jabra). It really influences the experience of what you’re listening to, for instance different genres of music and pure voice.

joecot 5y ago

Whenever I've done it I've always gone with #2, wireless non buds. I've gotten multiple pairs. While they don't get lost, I have always ended up with two fundamental problems with them #1 Bluebooth connectivity to computers. If I was just using my phone they were mostly fine, but at a computer it was a constant fight to get them to connect, to work with whatever app I'm using, and especially when I'm switching back and forth between using them for listening to music or using them to video conference. This might also be partly because Linux is my main driver, but having to switch back and forth between high quality audio output for music and two way cell phone quality audio sucks. #2 Having owned multiple pairs over the years, none of them would connect over Bluetooth while charging. Let me make my wireless headphones temporarily wired. At this point I use an over the ear headphone with a mic and a USB DAC. I specifically only get phones with a minijack so I could use them with that too.

thrashh 5y ago
#1 is because your BT drivers suck. The Mac’s BT driver seamlessly switches fine and I don’t have connection issues. I actually don’t have connection issues on Windows either, but it does have the switching problem.
- kelnos 5y ago
  Not everyone uses a Mac, and I expect that most people aren't going to change OSes (and app ecosystems) just to get wireless headphones to work well. Less disruptive to just use wires.
mrighele 5y ago
For #1 I would blame linux. It's bluetooth stack is... let's say less than stellar, expecially for headsets. I always have to fiddle to get my headset to work, while it works perfectly with any other OS I tried (MacOS, iOS, Android, Windows). #2: True, but usually the battery of a pair of headphones last much longer than earbuds, in my case at least 4 days, so I just put them in charge at night

ddingus 5y ago

I stopped upgrading phones for a while and bought a backup. Audio matters to me. Can't own a device with no analog jack.

no1lives4ever 5y ago

Now this is very likely not what you are really looking for, but the airpods pro in noise cancellation mode can allow you to play music at much higher aparent loudness thanks to the noise cancellation. You may want to try that out.

driverdan 5y ago

BT headphones get plenty loud enough. Anything louder will cause hearing damage.