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Is this particularly unique to inequality? You cannot say you are against animal cruelty unless you are willing to stop eating factory-farmed meat? You cannot

• helen___keller 5y ago
  You've listed personal actions. Allowing affordable housing to be built is a collective / political action. The equivalent would be something like "you cannot say you are against animal cruelty unless you support legislation against animal cruelty", and I think that's reasonable.
• spamizbad 5y ago
  Your analogies don't really track. It would be like saying: You cannot say you're for affordable housing unless you're personally willing (and eligible) to live in an affordable unit. (for the record, if I was eligible, I would love to).
  • throwawayboise 5y ago
    Have you seen the neighborhoods and people that live in "affordable" housing? No you wouldn't want to live there.
    • etchalon 5y ago
      There are plenty of perfectly acceptable affordable housing areas, especially when it's mixed into market-priced housing.
    • Kye 5y ago
      Can you be specific? Insinuations don't help.
      • Igelau 5y ago
        I'm sure it varies by region, but there many places along Appalachia where housing prices are basically the only buffer keeping fentanyl, meth, and guns at a distance. Yeah, it sucks because these are people in desperate circumstances exacerbated by distorted cost-of-living in the first place, but resolving the root cause doesn't magically undo the metastasis of crime and violence. Edit: I'm not saying that there aren't smart ways to do this, and converting one single-family lot in SF to a duplex certainly doesn't destroy the neighborhood. I am saying that some people have seen things they don't want in their backyard, and some people haven't.
        • Karrot_Kream 5y ago
          This is one of the worst aspects of American culture, IMO. Instead of tackling the issues of poverty, we just use the market to segregate the poor and their problems. It ends up creating a fractious, rancorous, and mutually distrustful society.
    • ahoy 5y ago
      I used to live across the street from a smaller NYCHA building. 5 stories, probably 20-40 units (new york city housing authority, pubic housing here). It seemed perfectly fine. I never went in, but the outside was clean, well lit, and well maintained. My neighbors there were just like my neighbors anywhere else on the block. There's certainly a lot of bad public housing in the us, but that's not an immutable quality of public housing, that's a policy choice made by politicians.
    • Frondo 5y ago
      Having been one of the "people" who lived in "affordable" housing, yes, I would have myself and people like me as neighbors. What a disgusting comment.
• godelski 5y ago
  This doesn't really work. Nimby is "I want this, but not near me" but the examples you gave are "I want this but no one is selling this to me." The difference is that in the first scenario someone is presenting a solution and people are saying "no, not like that" and in the second scenario there's no solution presented and people would probably buy them if they existed (or were just as convenient).
• labster 5y ago
  I’m not willing to give up textiles all the time, but I always make an effort for No Pants Day. Do it for the children! Or did I get your argument wrong?
• todd3834 5y ago
  I don’t drink coffee for other reasons but I do buy a lot of dark chocolate. Is it a known fact that cocoa is run by child labor? Even fair trade premium brands like Taza? I’m asking because I will give it up if so. As for textiles, does this mean all/most brands? I think it is worth boycotting brands that have unethical business practices but I didn’t really realize this was still going on in 2021 to a large extent. I know that sounds ignorant but I guess I just never really looked into it and it definitely isn’t shared in my echo chamber.
  • cozzyd 5y ago
    Off-topic but the Taza Factory is a fun tour (in Somerville, MA)