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Sometimes you want to modify the property, renting precludes that

by GoOnThenDoTell 5y ago

willis936 5y ago
I'm not even 30 and have a strong desire for RO water and an EV. Nope, that is for a higher echelon of society.
- sokoloff 5y ago
  If you’re already paying for the electricity and are willing to pay your landlord to have an electrician to install a 14-50R outlet in the parking area, I’d imagine most landlords would take that deal. That’s a cost that you’d pay even as a homeowner. Plenty of people own EVs without owning a house. I own a house, but still almost always charged at work before COVID. As in “I’d plug in at home maybe 2x per year in total, because we mostly use street parking.” Likewise, there are portable/countertop RO systems that can usually be installed with no permanent mods to the building. Given a strong desire for those two things, they seem achievable.
  - willis936 5y ago
    It is absurd to pay to increase the value of a property I don't own and will not live in after a few years. Should I just spend this money every time I move? My work doesn't have EV chargers and I'd need 20 hours of slow charging a day to make up for my commute. Relying on superchargers is reasonable though. I had not heard of portable RO systems before. I'm definitely hopping on that. Cheers.
    - sokoloff 5y ago
      If I added a 14-50R to my house, its value would increase by maybe $100 versus the same house without that outlet. (It could very likely be exactly $0.) Have you approached them with an offer to increase the rent you pay by $25/month if the landlord is willing to fit an outlet that you can plug a charger into? Or by $40/mo if they’re willing to put a 40A capable fast charger in so you don’t have to buy anything but can just use the service you want? Just as you don’t want to spend money for something that you care about using for a couple years but someone else might also later get benefit from, the landlord doesn’t want to spend that same amount of money for something that they don’t even care about at all.
throwawayboise 5y ago
Depends on the lease, but generally you're correct for residential rentals.

Sometimes you want to modify the property, renting precludes that

willis936 5y ago

I'm not even 30 and have a strong desire for RO water and an EV. Nope, that is for a higher echelon of society.

sokoloff 5y ago
If you’re already paying for the electricity and are willing to pay your landlord to have an electrician to install a 14-50R outlet in the parking area, I’d imagine most landlords would take that deal. That’s a cost that you’d pay even as a homeowner. Plenty of people own EVs without owning a house. I own a house, but still almost always charged at work before COVID. As in “I’d plug in at home maybe 2x per year in total, because we mostly use street parking.” Likewise, there are portable/countertop RO systems that can usually be installed with no permanent mods to the building. Given a strong desire for those two things, they seem achievable.
- willis936 5y ago
  It is absurd to pay to increase the value of a property I don't own and will not live in after a few years. Should I just spend this money every time I move? My work doesn't have EV chargers and I'd need 20 hours of slow charging a day to make up for my commute. Relying on superchargers is reasonable though. I had not heard of portable RO systems before. I'm definitely hopping on that. Cheers.
  - sokoloff 5y ago
    If I added a 14-50R to my house, its value would increase by maybe $100 versus the same house without that outlet. (It could very likely be exactly $0.) Have you approached them with an offer to increase the rent you pay by $25/month if the landlord is willing to fit an outlet that you can plug a charger into? Or by $40/mo if they’re willing to put a 40A capable fast charger in so you don’t have to buy anything but can just use the service you want? Just as you don’t want to spend money for something that you care about using for a couple years but someone else might also later get benefit from, the landlord doesn’t want to spend that same amount of money for something that they don’t even care about at all.

throwawayboise 5y ago

Depends on the lease, but generally you're correct for residential rentals.