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So my understanding is that cases are rising due to Delta (even amongst vaccinated), which correlates with every other report I've seen. However I couldn't see

So my understanding is that cases are rising due to Delta (even amongst vaccinated), which correlates with every other report I've seen. However I couldn't see in this report, what percentage of reported deaths (14) were unvaccinated vs single/double jab recipients? The takeaway seems to be that, when borders open in Australia for my case, I'm very likely to catch covid; I don't so much mind catching it as long as I don't end up in the ICU or dead over it though (and ditto for everyone else in the country of course).

woodruffw 5y ago
That information seems to be listed in this report[1]. The TL;DR, if I understand it correctly, is that a single vaccinated person appears to be dying every other day on average, versus approximately 5 vaccinated people every single day. So that's a tenfold difference. [1]: https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-local-covid-19-situation-(14-nov-2021) https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-loc...
- jeeeb 5y ago
  This is the relevant quote. Population wide fatality rate for non vaccinated individuals is about 9x higher. > Over the past 7 days, the number of fully vaccinated and non-fully vaccinated cases who are critically ill in the ICU are at 0.5 and 5.4 per 100,000 population respectively. Over the same period, the number of fully vaccinated and non-fully vaccinated cases who died are 0.1 and 0.9 per 100,000 population respectively. Among seniors aged 60 and above, the number of fully vaccinated and non-fully vaccinated cases who are critically ill in the ICU are 1.9 and 48.0 respectively. The number of fully vaccinated and non-fully vaccinated seniors who died are 0.4 and 9.2 respectively.
  - Someone 5y ago
    > Population wide fatality rate for non vaccinated individuals is about 9x higher. Given that there are 8 vaccinated people for every unvaccinated one, isn’t that about 72×?
    - jsnell 5y ago
      No, the numbers are already normalized by the population counts.
      - Someone 5y ago
        Aha. Read it as “(0.5 and 5.4) per 100,000 population”, not as “0.5 per 100,000 (vaccinated) population and 5.4 per 100,000 (unvaccinated) population” Thanks.
rossdavidh 5y ago
I think it is becoming clear that nearly everyone on the planet will catch it, eventually. Vaccinated rates of transmission are not as favorable as they were when the vaccines were brand new, but the impact on severity of symptoms still seems to be holding up (both from datasets like this and my own anecdotal witnessing among friends). So, it's "keep calm, get vaccinated, and carry on", I think.

woodruffw 5y ago

That information seems to be listed in this report[1]. The TL;DR, if I understand it correctly, is that a single vaccinated person appears to be dying every other day on average, versus approximately 5 vaccinated people every single day. So that's a tenfold difference. [1]: https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-local-covid-19-situation-(14-nov-2021) https://www.moh.gov.sg/news-highlights/details/update-on-loc...

jeeeb 5y ago
This is the relevant quote. Population wide fatality rate for non vaccinated individuals is about 9x higher. > Over the past 7 days, the number of fully vaccinated and non-fully vaccinated cases who are critically ill in the ICU are at 0.5 and 5.4 per 100,000 population respectively. Over the same period, the number of fully vaccinated and non-fully vaccinated cases who died are 0.1 and 0.9 per 100,000 population respectively. Among seniors aged 60 and above, the number of fully vaccinated and non-fully vaccinated cases who are critically ill in the ICU are 1.9 and 48.0 respectively. The number of fully vaccinated and non-fully vaccinated seniors who died are 0.4 and 9.2 respectively.
- Someone 5y ago
  > Population wide fatality rate for non vaccinated individuals is about 9x higher. Given that there are 8 vaccinated people for every unvaccinated one, isn’t that about 72×?
  - jsnell 5y ago
    No, the numbers are already normalized by the population counts.
    - Someone 5y ago
      Aha. Read it as “(0.5 and 5.4) per 100,000 population”, not as “0.5 per 100,000 (vaccinated) population and 5.4 per 100,000 (unvaccinated) population” Thanks.

rossdavidh 5y ago

I think it is becoming clear that nearly everyone on the planet will catch it, eventually. Vaccinated rates of transmission are not as favorable as they were when the vaccines were brand new, but the impact on severity of symptoms still seems to be holding up (both from datasets like this and my own anecdotal witnessing among friends). So, it's "keep calm, get vaccinated, and carry on", I think.