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> Those things, he thinks, are uncertain. We should worry about what’s happening now in everyday time, to which, in his view, too few are paying heed: The growt

> Those things, he thinks, are uncertain. We should worry about what’s happening now in everyday time, to which, in his view, too few are paying heed: The growth of total AI-based surveillance and the disappearance of privacy. That’s real rich coming from the founder of Palantir

aeternum 5y ago
Don't hate the player hate the game I guess. If Palantir didn't build the tools someone else like Clearview AI would. Anyone can now buy motion activated cameras with enough storage for months of video, some even battery powered for <$100 each. A couple of those pointed at your residence is enough to remove a ton of privacy. Now imagine some company/blockchain rewards ppl for uploading those motion caps.
- melony 5y ago
  > If Palantir didn't build the tools someone else like Clearview AI would. Thiel is an investor in Clearview.
- doomrobo 5y ago
  The argument is a lazy abdication of responsibility. Also I'm like 90% sure that Hoan Ton-That, Clearview's founder gave the same exact argument for why he built it
  - aeternum 5y ago
    This is one place where government should step in and we should add regulations if enough people agree. It's ridiculous to expect every company to choose not to pursue this as part of some unspoken morality.
- sterlind 5y ago
  Don't worry, Thiel invested sizeably in Clearview too. I lost it hearing how he denounced AI as "basically Communist" while actively building and funding it. Did the money he earned damage his brain into forgetting how he made it?
  - aeternum 5y ago
    If you believe in the power of a weapon/tech and others are ignoring it, isn't the smart move to own & control it?
aaron695 5y ago
> That’s real rich coming from the founder of Palantir This is such an insipid HN comment, it's become pretty standard. Who cares what the person actually running an 'AI' company attacking privacy thinks on AI and privacy. Lets talk about HN thoughts on morality. Ohhh I'm on HN and I like privacy. He admits AI is BS. Hmmmm lets skip that little nugget. Half of HN believe AI is real and actually used to do things. Copilot is awesome! It's about a towns cameras going from 10 to 20 in number. About banks being forced to hand over data. There's no real AI behind it. His talk isn't out, but this article implies Thiel is confirming this.

aeternum 5y ago

Don't hate the player hate the game I guess. If Palantir didn't build the tools someone else like Clearview AI would. Anyone can now buy motion activated cameras with enough storage for months of video, some even battery powered for <$100 each. A couple of those pointed at your residence is enough to remove a ton of privacy. Now imagine some company/blockchain rewards ppl for uploading those motion caps.

melony 5y ago
> If Palantir didn't build the tools someone else like Clearview AI would. Thiel is an investor in Clearview.
doomrobo 5y ago
The argument is a lazy abdication of responsibility. Also I'm like 90% sure that Hoan Ton-That, Clearview's founder gave the same exact argument for why he built it
- aeternum 5y ago
  This is one place where government should step in and we should add regulations if enough people agree. It's ridiculous to expect every company to choose not to pursue this as part of some unspoken morality.
sterlind 5y ago
Don't worry, Thiel invested sizeably in Clearview too. I lost it hearing how he denounced AI as "basically Communist" while actively building and funding it. Did the money he earned damage his brain into forgetting how he made it?
- aeternum 5y ago
  If you believe in the power of a weapon/tech and others are ignoring it, isn't the smart move to own & control it?

aaron695 5y ago

> That’s real rich coming from the founder of Palantir This is such an insipid HN comment, it's become pretty standard. Who cares what the person actually running an 'AI' company attacking privacy thinks on AI and privacy. Lets talk about HN thoughts on morality. Ohhh I'm on HN and I like privacy. He admits AI is BS. Hmmmm lets skip that little nugget. Half of HN believe AI is real and actually used to do things. Copilot is awesome! It's about a towns cameras going from 10 to 20 in number. About banks being forced to hand over data. There's no real AI behind it. His talk isn't out, but this article implies Thiel is confirming this.