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> Why is it better to unbundle them? Better... for who? I don't know if it's better for either business or society, but it's better for me because I walk to t

> Why is it better to unbundle them? Better... for who? I don't know if it's better for either business or society, but it's better for me because I walk to the grocery store and never take my car. If the price of parking is unbundled from the price of food, then I don't have to pay for something I'm not using.

djbusby 5y ago
You hardly do anyway - these costs are aggregated in with existing costs (labor being the largest) across 1000s of products and 10000s of transactions.
- Eelongate 5y ago
  If my share of the cost is insignificant, then car drivers shouldn't be too bent out of shape about me not having to pay it.
  - djbusby 5y ago
    The point is that is costs more to calculate the pennies difference than the sum of the pennies
throwaway55421 5y ago
If it's walkable then the car drivers are paying more than they should because rent is bundled in to the prices. There's no free lunch either way here.
- Ma8ee 5y ago
  That argument doesn't make sense. The car drivers choose themselves to drive to this particular store where you have to pay a premium for the store's location. If they feel punished by having to pay more for a centrally located store even though they have a car and could drive to a less centrally located store, then by all means, they should do that. It's somewhat amazing how entitled many car drivers feel to be able to use up space and not having to pay rent for it.
  - throwaway55421 5y ago
    I agree that the better solution would be to just scrap the parking. I don't think urban parking makes sense (other than parking in/outside of homes).
- Eelongate 5y ago
  If it's walkable, the car drivers have made their choice and can pay for it. If they don't like the price, they can walk instead. Or, use their cars to drive a few more miles to a grocery store with more agreeable parking. There are more than a dozen Trader Joe's in LA, surely one of them has agreeable parking terms. And that's not counting all the other grocery stores in town. You should look up the specific Trader Joe's the article is talking about on google maps. It's smack in the middle of Hollywood, within walking distance of numerous businesses and tourist attractions. Expecting free parking in that neighborhood is completely unreasonable.

djbusby 5y ago

You hardly do anyway - these costs are aggregated in with existing costs (labor being the largest) across 1000s of products and 10000s of transactions.

Eelongate 5y ago
If my share of the cost is insignificant, then car drivers shouldn't be too bent out of shape about me not having to pay it.
- djbusby 5y ago
  The point is that is costs more to calculate the pennies difference than the sum of the pennies

throwaway55421 5y ago

If it's walkable then the car drivers are paying more than they should because rent is bundled in to the prices. There's no free lunch either way here.

Ma8ee 5y ago
That argument doesn't make sense. The car drivers choose themselves to drive to this particular store where you have to pay a premium for the store's location. If they feel punished by having to pay more for a centrally located store even though they have a car and could drive to a less centrally located store, then by all means, they should do that. It's somewhat amazing how entitled many car drivers feel to be able to use up space and not having to pay rent for it.
- throwaway55421 5y ago
  I agree that the better solution would be to just scrap the parking. I don't think urban parking makes sense (other than parking in/outside of homes).
Eelongate 5y ago
If it's walkable, the car drivers have made their choice and can pay for it. If they don't like the price, they can walk instead. Or, use their cars to drive a few more miles to a grocery store with more agreeable parking. There are more than a dozen Trader Joe's in LA, surely one of them has agreeable parking terms. And that's not counting all the other grocery stores in town. You should look up the specific Trader Joe's the article is talking about on google maps. It's smack in the middle of Hollywood, within walking distance of numerous businesses and tourist attractions. Expecting free parking in that neighborhood is completely unreasonable.