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I've tried dhall, cue and jsonet, and cue is so far my fav. It's very well designed, expressive, but restrictive enough so that config files don't look like scr

I've tried dhall, cue and jsonet, and cue is so far my fav. It's very well designed, expressive, but restrictive enough so that config files don't look like scripts. The way it blend types and values makes learning it super easy, yet you can do complex things with few lines. But the main implementation exports to yaml without quoting the strings, which kinda defeat the purpose :(

mananaysiempre 5y ago
I’m kind of unsure about the way CUE achieves reuse: if I understand correctly, you have files in a directory tree and the (result of processing the) bottommost files are the things you’re supposed to point your consuming tools at. So there’s no way to share structure among a collection of items if that collection is nested inside your config, the only operation available is essentially the generation of a set of similar but separate configs. Or am I wrong here? I’d very much like to be. (Also, the type system is absolutely delicious, but it badly needs a paper with a complete description. I’m extremely interested in how it works, but fragmentary “notes on the formalism underlying” CUE are not enough.)
- BiteCode_dev 5y ago
  You do have imports and functions so you can reuse what you want. The doc is also quite clear and rich, but the way it's organized means I have to read it entirely before writting my first CUE file. It also lacks IRL examples so trials and errors were my best friends. It can be discouraging.
  - yawnxyz 5y ago
    cuetorials.com really helped me get there
- verdverm 5y ago
  CUE is based on Typed Feature Structures, which predate Deep NLP, and for which there is limited literature. We do need a good writeup on the theory. I've written a bit here: https://cuetorials.com/cueology/theory/ https://cuetorials.com/cueology/theory/ Think of a graph with lots of attributes within which paths are searched for.
  - the_duke 5y ago
    The linked page seems to be empty.
    - verdverm 5y ago
      I'm seeing a few headings and links
111000 5y ago
I actually use CUE for large configuration files, used YAML before and had many issues once configurations became larger and more complex. It validates and exports JSON, which is easily readable in C++ and Python :-) have been happy doing the switch

mananaysiempre 5y ago

I’m kind of unsure about the way CUE achieves reuse: if I understand correctly, you have files in a directory tree and the (result of processing the) bottommost files are the things you’re supposed to point your consuming tools at. So there’s no way to share structure among a collection of items if that collection is nested inside your config, the only operation available is essentially the generation of a set of similar but separate configs. Or am I wrong here? I’d very much like to be. (Also, the type system is absolutely delicious, but it badly needs a paper with a complete description. I’m extremely interested in how it works, but fragmentary “notes on the formalism underlying” CUE are not enough.)

BiteCode_dev 5y ago
You do have imports and functions so you can reuse what you want. The doc is also quite clear and rich, but the way it's organized means I have to read it entirely before writting my first CUE file. It also lacks IRL examples so trials and errors were my best friends. It can be discouraging.
- yawnxyz 5y ago
  cuetorials.com really helped me get there
verdverm 5y ago
CUE is based on Typed Feature Structures, which predate Deep NLP, and for which there is limited literature. We do need a good writeup on the theory. I've written a bit here: https://cuetorials.com/cueology/theory/ https://cuetorials.com/cueology/theory/ Think of a graph with lots of attributes within which paths are searched for.
- the_duke 5y ago
  The linked page seems to be empty.
  - verdverm 5y ago
    I'm seeing a few headings and links

111000 5y ago

I actually use CUE for large configuration files, used YAML before and had many issues once configurations became larger and more complex. It validates and exports JSON, which is easily readable in C++ and Python :-) have been happy doing the switch