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> I'm hesitant to work in a place where I can get thrown under the bus for being a man This is not a thing.

by pedrosorio 5y ago

skinkestek 5y ago
ok, good to know. But it still doesn't feel safe.
- epicureanideal 5y ago
  There are varying degrees of discrimination across the tech industry, based on your skin color, gender, and political views. Some are relatively mild, others will literally put resumes from the wrong group of people in the recycle bin. And the wrong groups are not the historically under represented ones.
- pedrosorio 5y ago
  Do you have a specific outcome you are afraid of? It's not clear what you think "getting thrown under the bus" would entail. Are you worried your ability to be employed working on tech would be put at risk as a man working in FAANG? What would that look like?
  - Jensson 5y ago
    Fear is a real thing. There is so much talk where people openly say they want to discriminate against men, or that men should watch themselves or that men are bad. Of course in reality most of that is just talk, those people doesn't hold that kind of power at most companies, but just letting them talk like that instils fear in a lot of men and those men will avoid such companies.
epicureanideal 5y ago
Actually it is. I’ve seen it.
throwaway_1114 5y ago
I worked at a place that is discriminatory and has hostile attitudes against men - 1) a team I was previously on had two open headcount. I knew a friend of mine that would have been a perfect fit for the role. I suggested my friend and was told that they weren't considering men or non-diverse candidates. I'm a mixed Latino and was told this from a white man 2) a government grant was given to businesses impacted by covid, and our business assisted with this. Preference was given to women and minorities. White men were held in a queue. Eventually a lawsuit was filed by white men claiming discrimination and the court stopped the program. Dozens of people in my company Slack were furious that the white men held up money disbursement because of their "racism". This was the narrative for weeks 3) there have been official mandates to interview minorities (non-white, non-Asian men) before anyone else (is this even legal?) 4) in an effort to combat wage discrimination against men, women are paid more on average than men in respective wage bands. This is announced quarterly and celebrated 5) women get special groups, off sites, and classes paid for by the company. woman and minorities get special coverage, special interest stories, community highlights, and praise. white and Asian males do not unless they are LGBT 6) a female colleague of mine (who I like as a friend) is an extremely low performer. We've all had to pick up the slack from her, and at times I've had to explain things repeatedly that I'd fail candidates in interviews for. she's never been given a negative performance eval, yet a collage who went through a bad quarter got fired --- edit: flagged, which is disappointing. I'm not anti-women or anti-minority. I am a minority on the race and sexuality dimensions. why isn't my experience valid?
- exBarrelSpoiler 5y ago
  Probably because your story sounds dubious. Name and shame or forever hold your peace. You're posting from a throwaway account anyway.
  - 0xy 5y ago
    I've participated in hiring at 3 billion-dollar tech companies. Nearly all of them I've seen happen, always under the cloak of wink wink nudge nudge.
  - dustintrex 5y ago

> I'm hesitant to work in a place where I can get thrown under the bus for being a man This is not a thing.

skinkestek 5y ago

ok, good to know. But it still doesn't feel safe.

epicureanideal 5y ago
There are varying degrees of discrimination across the tech industry, based on your skin color, gender, and political views. Some are relatively mild, others will literally put resumes from the wrong group of people in the recycle bin. And the wrong groups are not the historically under represented ones.
pedrosorio 5y ago
Do you have a specific outcome you are afraid of? It's not clear what you think "getting thrown under the bus" would entail. Are you worried your ability to be employed working on tech would be put at risk as a man working in FAANG? What would that look like?
- Jensson 5y ago
  Fear is a real thing. There is so much talk where people openly say they want to discriminate against men, or that men should watch themselves or that men are bad. Of course in reality most of that is just talk, those people doesn't hold that kind of power at most companies, but just letting them talk like that instils fear in a lot of men and those men will avoid such companies.

epicureanideal 5y ago

Actually it is. I’ve seen it.

throwaway_1114 5y ago

I worked at a place that is discriminatory and has hostile attitudes against men - 1) a team I was previously on had two open headcount. I knew a friend of mine that would have been a perfect fit for the role. I suggested my friend and was told that they weren't considering men or non-diverse candidates. I'm a mixed Latino and was told this from a white man 2) a government grant was given to businesses impacted by covid, and our business assisted with this. Preference was given to women and minorities. White men were held in a queue. Eventually a lawsuit was filed by white men claiming discrimination and the court stopped the program. Dozens of people in my company Slack were furious that the white men held up money disbursement because of their "racism". This was the narrative for weeks 3) there have been official mandates to interview minorities (non-white, non-Asian men) before anyone else (is this even legal?) 4) in an effort to combat wage discrimination against men, women are paid more on average than men in respective wage bands. This is announced quarterly and celebrated 5) women get special groups, off sites, and classes paid for by the company. woman and minorities get special coverage, special interest stories, community highlights, and praise. white and Asian males do not unless they are LGBT 6) a female colleague of mine (who I like as a friend) is an extremely low performer. We've all had to pick up the slack from her, and at times I've had to explain things repeatedly that I'd fail candidates in interviews for. she's never been given a negative performance eval, yet a collage who went through a bad quarter got fired --- edit: flagged, which is disappointing. I'm not anti-women or anti-minority. I am a minority on the race and sexuality dimensions. why isn't my experience valid?

exBarrelSpoiler 5y ago
Probably because your story sounds dubious. Name and shame or forever hold your peace. You're posting from a throwaway account anyway.
- 0xy 5y ago
  I've participated in hiring at 3 billion-dollar tech companies. Nearly all of them I've seen happen, always under the cloak of wink wink nudge nudge.
- dustintrex 5y ago