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I have yet to run into this problem, do you have any examples? I don’t have any exotic hardware outside of the ThinkPad X220 dock which nowadays only works with

I have yet to run into this problem, do you have any examples? I don’t have any exotic hardware outside of the ThinkPad X220 dock which nowadays only works with Linux.

rbanffy 5y ago
Thinkpads are a good bet for Linux compatibility because they are very popular with Red Hat and Ubuntu kernel developers. They’ll do whatever it takes to make Linux run well on their machines.
- chronogram 5y ago
  In a sense yes, but like my current Latitude 7xxx and those original Thinkpad Xxx it’s just paying for a premium product and getting premium hardware and premium chips inside so I get hardware that staffs a development team that makes good drivers and that has manufacturers that staffs a development team good enough to put it on fwupd.
  - formerly_proven 5y ago
    no tux no bux
spijdar 5y ago
Not a problem with drivers per se, but Bluetooth is totally unavailable on Server SKUs, outside installing a proprietary Bluetooth stack outside the windows one. Another issue I've run into was Server 2016 not having trackpad drivers for a Dell laptop's I2C bus/trackpad.
R0b0t1 5y ago
Yes, most startling was Intel iGPU drivers not installing, as well as AMD GPU drivers not installing for non-enterprise cards. Then people have mentioned wireless and bluetooth typically being nonfunctional. Your touchpad may not work if it is I2C or if the PS2 bridge is USB. You may also be unable to get computer peripherals to work if they are not designed to be driverless. I suspect power management is also poor.
- stordoff 5y ago
  > most startling was Intel iGPU drivers not installing On which version? I'm running Server 2016 (Datacenter) with an Intel iGPU, and I don't recall having to do anything special to get it working.
  - R0b0t1 5y ago
    The Intel CPU in a Surface. From memory the mobile iGPU had a different model than what shows up in a desktop. I also read AMD iGPUs were failing.

I have yet to run into this problem, do you have any examples? I don’t have any exotic hardware outside of the ThinkPad X220 dock which nowadays only works with Linux.

rbanffy 5y ago

Thinkpads are a good bet for Linux compatibility because they are very popular with Red Hat and Ubuntu kernel developers. They’ll do whatever it takes to make Linux run well on their machines.

chronogram 5y ago
In a sense yes, but like my current Latitude 7xxx and those original Thinkpad Xxx it’s just paying for a premium product and getting premium hardware and premium chips inside so I get hardware that staffs a development team that makes good drivers and that has manufacturers that staffs a development team good enough to put it on fwupd.
- formerly_proven 5y ago
  no tux no bux

spijdar 5y ago

Not a problem with drivers per se, but Bluetooth is totally unavailable on Server SKUs, outside installing a proprietary Bluetooth stack outside the windows one. Another issue I've run into was Server 2016 not having trackpad drivers for a Dell laptop's I2C bus/trackpad.

R0b0t1 5y ago

Yes, most startling was Intel iGPU drivers not installing, as well as AMD GPU drivers not installing for non-enterprise cards. Then people have mentioned wireless and bluetooth typically being nonfunctional. Your touchpad may not work if it is I2C or if the PS2 bridge is USB. You may also be unable to get computer peripherals to work if they are not designed to be driverless. I suspect power management is also poor.

stordoff 5y ago
> most startling was Intel iGPU drivers not installing On which version? I'm running Server 2016 (Datacenter) with an Intel iGPU, and I don't recall having to do anything special to get it working.
- R0b0t1 5y ago
  The Intel CPU in a Surface. From memory the mobile iGPU had a different model than what shows up in a desktop. I also read AMD iGPUs were failing.