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Yes I know. That's part of the problem. I don't want to be in that eco system. Even just to apply for a job at Facebook they expect you to already have a Facebo

Yes I know. That's part of the problem. I don't want to be in that eco system. Even just to apply for a job at Facebook they expect you to already have a Facebook account. The arrogance of the whole thing is just problematic.

ghaff 5y ago
While there are lots of reasons to not want to use Facebook, it's also pretty reasonable that refusing to use a potential employer's product would be pretty much a non-starter when it comes to employment.
- msandford 5y ago
  Do you think that Ford only hires people that have only bought Ford all their lives? They check your car on the way to the interview and if it's not Ford you're automatically DQ'd? How would that work being a new hire at Tesla considering that they probably pay a lot of folks less than is required to own one? Cars, appliances, housing, fuel & energy, food, etc. Huge, huge swaths of the economy don't require brand loyalty because it's not reasonable to expect.
  - stale2002 5y ago
    A better analogy would be if you refused to even go to fords website, or if during a company event, you refused to even step foot in a ford car that drove you somewhere.
    - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
      I don't have a problem using it at work if they give me a work account that isn't publicly visible. It's more akin to being forced to give up your private vehicle and use the company car but for everything. So even when you need a van... Nope you're stuck with a moped.
  - ghaff 5y ago
    There was certainly a period when having Japanese-made cars in an American car manufacturer's parking lot was an invitation to (however much I disapprove) have your car smashed up. But in more modern times, there's certainly a general expectation to use your employer's products when it's reasonable to do so even if they're not your preferred options. There are exceptions of course and tech companies are usually more flexible these days.

ghaff 5y ago

While there are lots of reasons to not want to use Facebook, it's also pretty reasonable that refusing to use a potential employer's product would be pretty much a non-starter when it comes to employment.

msandford 5y ago
Do you think that Ford only hires people that have only bought Ford all their lives? They check your car on the way to the interview and if it's not Ford you're automatically DQ'd? How would that work being a new hire at Tesla considering that they probably pay a lot of folks less than is required to own one? Cars, appliances, housing, fuel & energy, food, etc. Huge, huge swaths of the economy don't require brand loyalty because it's not reasonable to expect.
- stale2002 5y ago
  A better analogy would be if you refused to even go to fords website, or if during a company event, you refused to even step foot in a ford car that drove you somewhere.
  - 0x0nyandesu 5y ago
    I don't have a problem using it at work if they give me a work account that isn't publicly visible. It's more akin to being forced to give up your private vehicle and use the company car but for everything. So even when you need a van... Nope you're stuck with a moped.
- ghaff 5y ago
  There was certainly a period when having Japanese-made cars in an American car manufacturer's parking lot was an invitation to (however much I disapprove) have your car smashed up. But in more modern times, there's certainly a general expectation to use your employer's products when it's reasonable to do so even if they're not your preferred options. There are exceptions of course and tech companies are usually more flexible these days.