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Does this have the reliability as the rest of Seagate's lineup? Or is this actually something that isn't a ripoff?

• wmf 5y ago
  Obligatory reminder that there are only three hard disk vendors and all of them have made bad drives at one time.
  • thijsvandien 5y ago
    To be specific: Seagate, Toshiba and Western Digital.
    • danlugo92 5y ago
      What about Samsung?
      • El_RIDO 5y ago
        Seagate took over Samsungs HDD department in 2011: https://www.seagate.com/news/news-archive/seagate-completes-aquisition-samsungs-hdd-business-pr/ https://www.seagate.com/news/news-archive/seagate-completes-...
        • danlugo92 5y ago
          What about OWC? Are they all repackaged from those 3?
          • thijsvandien 5y ago
            Do they even pretend to make hard drives? Not in their shop at least: https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/3.5-SerialATA https://eshop.macsales.com/shop/hard-drives/3.5-SerialATA. Perhaps they do produce their own SSD's, as do many companies, since that's trivial in comparison. Definitely not hard drives, though.
            • danlugo92 5y ago
              I didn't know SSDs were easier trivial to build compared to HDD, I suspected it for a bit after reading your original comment. So that explains why only 3 companies make HDDs.
              • thijsvandien 5y ago
                SSDs are essentially just some chips (controller, flash memory, and often some DRAM cache) wired together, whereas mechanical drives have many moving parts operating within microscopic tolerances.
                • wmf 5y ago
                  For SSDs the hard part is the controller and NAND and there are only a half-dozen companies making those parts. 90% of SSD brands are the same Phison controllers under the hood.
  • kevin_thibedeau 5y ago
    Only Seagate has shipped firmware that bricks an entire drive.
    • namibj 5y ago
      Have you got a link to back this up/allow the curious to read up on it without having to search?
      • userbinator 5y ago
        It's so well-known that I wonder about your intentions, but just in case... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Barracuda#Firmware_bug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Barracuda#Firmware_bug https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Barracuda#Firmware_bug_2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Barracuda#Firmware_bug... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Barracuda#Firmware_bugs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Barracuda#Firmware_bug... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Barracuda#Firmware_bugs_2 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seagate_Barracuda#Firmware_bug... https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27419342 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27419342 ...and then there's this one which is infamous enough to have its own Wikipedia page: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27419072 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27419072 I don't think I've seen something this bad since the IBM DeathStars.
    • toast0 5y ago
      Hey, those were fixable if you ran a UART to the jumpers, if this is the right one. Not entirely a brick! Also, firmware mistake = disk disappears from the bus is pretty common in enterprise SSD land. HPE did it twice, I've seen it on Intel drives, and I'm sure there are others I'm not remembering. Maybe Seagate was trying to be more enterprise... and at least their drives only failed to start up IIRC, if you were running them continuously it was fine (unlike the SSDs)
      • p_l 5y ago
        I don't recall the vendor that Dell used, might have been intel, but I had NVMe drives that would displace clocks for half the connector on reboot unless you did a full powercycle...
• moffkalast 5y ago
  I'm sure the first one they'll put out will be capable of 5400 rpm haha.