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> But let’s clear up something right away: Trader Joe’s says it has nothing to do with this. > “This isn’t a TJ’s thing,” said Tara Miller, a Trader Joe’s spok

> But let’s clear up something right away: Trader Joe’s says it has nothing to do with this. > “This isn’t a TJ’s thing,” said Tara Miller, a Trader Joe’s spokesperson. “It’s being implemented by the landlord I feel like the headline is misleading and shouldn't mention Trader Joe's if it isn't Trader Joe's direct fault.

extropy 5y ago
Still TJ decided it's fine to continue running their store with this crap being set up Or they might have been in the dark until people started complaining. Anyhow this totally involves TJ and they will need to do something about it, as more customers will get pissed.
- bink 5y ago
  Trader Joe's no doubt has a multi-year lease at this location that they can't just break. But beyond that I seriously doubt the Trader Joe's legal team inspects the terms of service for the parking apps of all parking garages attached to buildings where they lease space. We'd also have no way of knowing if they objected to these terms in private even if they had. They probably will have their legal team take a look at the agreement for this location now that it's made the news, but can we cut them a little slack before fetching the pitch forks?
  - tannedNerd 5y ago
    They also could have easily pushed back and told the landlord if they do this they won’t be renewing their lease. I’m sure losing an anchor tenant like that is enough to encourage the landlord to change their mind.
renewiltord 5y ago
Nope. If you want to apply pressure you do so at the weakest link. This isn’t news. It’s an attempt to stop this using the news.
tomrod 5y ago
Trader Joe's has negotiating power here, if they cared.
dheera 5y ago
Trader Joe's should fight with their landlord about it. That should be part of their customer service, to do those things for me, in return for me shopping at their stores and giving them revenue. Just say you don't own a mobile phone and that you're willing to pay parking with cash or credit card. The ball is now in their court to figure out what to do.
dang 5y ago
Ok, we've de-Joed the title above.
- tannedNerd 5y ago
  I feel likes that’s not exactly fair and quite a bit of editorial censorship considering it was the original article title. Almost to the point I would ask if any of the HN admins have stock positions in Trader Joe’s… Trader Joe’s is subjecting their customers to this and should be held responsible if if it was through their landlord. They still are an accomplice to this data harvesting by the fact they have a business relationship with the company doing this. Did you guys remove Facebook from the Cambridge Analytics scandal post? After “they” weren’t the ones doing right?
  - dang 5y ago
    We're just trying to respond to user complaints about titles the same way we always do! No stock positions were involved. As for scandals of the past - I can't even remember last week. When users disagree about which title is better, we have to make a call. My call in this case is that (a) it's really not that big a deal and (b) it's best to go by HN's first principle, which is that we try to optimize for curiosity (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20optimiz%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...). It's much better to err on the side of curiosity than indignation.

extropy 5y ago

Still TJ decided it's fine to continue running their store with this crap being set up Or they might have been in the dark until people started complaining. Anyhow this totally involves TJ and they will need to do something about it, as more customers will get pissed.

bink 5y ago
Trader Joe's no doubt has a multi-year lease at this location that they can't just break. But beyond that I seriously doubt the Trader Joe's legal team inspects the terms of service for the parking apps of all parking garages attached to buildings where they lease space. We'd also have no way of knowing if they objected to these terms in private even if they had. They probably will have their legal team take a look at the agreement for this location now that it's made the news, but can we cut them a little slack before fetching the pitch forks?
- tannedNerd 5y ago
  They also could have easily pushed back and told the landlord if they do this they won’t be renewing their lease. I’m sure losing an anchor tenant like that is enough to encourage the landlord to change their mind.

renewiltord 5y ago

Nope. If you want to apply pressure you do so at the weakest link. This isn’t news. It’s an attempt to stop this using the news.

tomrod 5y ago

Trader Joe's has negotiating power here, if they cared.

dheera 5y ago

Trader Joe's should fight with their landlord about it. That should be part of their customer service, to do those things for me, in return for me shopping at their stores and giving them revenue. Just say you don't own a mobile phone and that you're willing to pay parking with cash or credit card. The ball is now in their court to figure out what to do.

dang 5y ago

Ok, we've de-Joed the title above.

tannedNerd 5y ago
I feel likes that’s not exactly fair and quite a bit of editorial censorship considering it was the original article title. Almost to the point I would ask if any of the HN admins have stock positions in Trader Joe’s… Trader Joe’s is subjecting their customers to this and should be held responsible if if it was through their landlord. They still are an accomplice to this data harvesting by the fact they have a business relationship with the company doing this. Did you guys remove Facebook from the Cambridge Analytics scandal post? After “they” weren’t the ones doing right?
- dang 5y ago
  We're just trying to respond to user complaints about titles the same way we always do! No stock positions were involved. As for scandals of the past - I can't even remember last week. When users disagree about which title is better, we have to make a call. My call in this case is that (a) it's really not that big a deal and (b) it's best to go by HN's first principle, which is that we try to optimize for curiosity (https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sort=byDate&type=comment&query=curiosity%20optimiz%20by:dang https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&sor...). It's much better to err on the side of curiosity than indignation.