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I don't think the "Please stop spreading misinformation." boilerplate is necessarily always hostile and provocative. In situations where the comment is only ai
by fwn 5y ago
I don't think the "Please stop spreading misinformation." boilerplate is necessarily always hostile and provocative.
In situations where the comment is only aimed at correcting a factual mistake, for example, it can be okay, if still bad style.
It always feels as if it prematurely implies evil intention, which is a move that does not belong in any intellectually honest conversation, neither casual nor scientific.
I don't think the boilerplate should be used in comments that then continue with highly questionable, very radical statements. Especially if heterodox opinions are stated as if they were well established positions.
For example:
"This is no different to instituting lockdowns before vaccines became available."
The idea that conditional lockdowns are identical to non-conditional lockdowns from legal, medical or political perspective is not just wrong, but also unnecessarily radical. The radicalism just makes the wrongness trivial to spot.
The position that actually justifies conditional lock-downs (like the new Austrian policy) is one where the discriminatory treatment is acknowledged and justified, not simply denied.
...which should not surprise anyone who somewhat followed the discourse on the issue.
I know that's not as attractive as just denying the existence of differences between two obviously different policies.
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- tinus_hn 5y ago> The idea that conditional lockdowns are identical to non-conditional lockdowns from legal, medical or political perspective is not just wrong, but also unnecessarily radical. Not to mention the ethical aspects of this kind of apartheid.
- glogla 5y agoTechnically, lockdowns before vaccines were available were also lockdowns only for unvaccinated people. There just weren't any vaccinated ones. Pedantry, I know, but this is HN.
- fwn 5y agoNaming a difference is not an argument in favour of sameness. The availability of a vaccine is one of the several ways in which the current Austrian policy is different from earlier lockdowns. This alone already has direct consequences for the political justification of the policy: In the article OP linked they specifically name vaccination nudges as one of the effects they expect from their conditional lockdown. Which is something that would not have made sense in the absence of vaccines. Pedantry can have it's upside though, so I'm not complaining! :)