> We are going to go extinct with that attitude I understand your point and I agree (within limits) but that makes it no less true. Side note: total extinction

> We are going to go extinct with that attitude I understand your point and I agree (within limits) but that makes it no less true. Side note: total extinction of the human race is incredibly unlikely at this point and certainly not from climate change. That's not to say that huge numbers of us won't die in the process. > the laws on nature do not owe us a cheaper method of producing energy Of course not but increasing fossil fuel costs ultimately make other forms of energy production economic. > The Moneyed classes have never given up anything willingly: the end of monarchy, the end of slavery and even labour laws were won in blood. I agree but that's really a whole separate topic. The unwillingness of the ultra-wealthy to pay for the society that makes their wealth possible and the legions of people who adamantly oppose the ultra-wealthy just being slightly less ultra-wealthy is a recipe for disaster. The ultimate form of wealth redistribution is war and revolution.