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The US. Even our healthcare system largely exists just to squeeze us. I think you have a rather naive view of how corporations and business actually work. Sure

The US. Even our healthcare system largely exists just to squeeze us. I think you have a rather naive view of how corporations and business actually work. Sure, you technically "voluntarily" use their services, but this is often because you're not given a choice either by the reality of economics, monopolistic practices, or even the law. My internet company oversells and underdelivers and doesn't really give two shits that they have terrible quality because they know our only other choices are even worse and they've lobbied themselves into a position to keep real competition out. Go to buy a car and the salesmen will absolutely push you to get your financing through them even if you don't actually need any financing. My sister has been threatened 5 times now by a collection agency for a loan she already paid off years ago. Funeral homes try to guilt you into buying caskets and flowers and shit through them rather than through third parties who are an order of magnitude less expensive, oh, and they have financing too! Cereal and toy companies advertise to children and coach them on effective ways to annoy their parents into buying their product for them. Pharmaceutical companies advertise directly to consumers to pressure their doctors into prescribing them stuff. I can hear your response now, something along the lines of "It's their fault for falling for it". Capitalism as it exists today optimizes for sociopathy and people like you are so entrenched in that culture that you can't even see it anymore.

toolz 5y ago
You've failed to show a single example of a corporation deceiving you out of your money. Your doctor didn't lie to you, the funeral director didn't lie to you. The salesman didn't lie to you. Obviously they aren't trying to make the best decision for you, but it takes an awfully selfish person to believe it's everyone else's responsibility to spoon feed them optimal market information.
- bozhark 5y ago
  If you want data, prove your opinion.
- AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
  > You've failed to show a single example of a corporation deceiving you out of your money. You just have a conveniently narrow definition of "deceive". Funeral homes use guilt to manipulate people into believing that they are somehow doing their loved ones a disservice by going with "inferior" (hint: they're not) third-party coffins and the like. Saying that isn't deception is a child's argument. > Obviously they aren't trying to make the best decision for you Yeah, in other words: "It's their fault for falling for it". Victim blaming is built in to our increasingly sociopathic culture.
  - toolz 5y ago
    I've bought a coffin and an urn outside of the funeral home that provided us with their services. Neither times was I told our decision was inferior. The point you seem to have latched onto as the most representative of your argument doesn't appear to hold water.
    - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
      Do you know why the The Funeral Rule exists? It wasn't because this sort of thing was rare.

toolz 5y ago

You've failed to show a single example of a corporation deceiving you out of your money. Your doctor didn't lie to you, the funeral director didn't lie to you. The salesman didn't lie to you. Obviously they aren't trying to make the best decision for you, but it takes an awfully selfish person to believe it's everyone else's responsibility to spoon feed them optimal market information.

bozhark 5y ago
If you want data, prove your opinion.
AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
> You've failed to show a single example of a corporation deceiving you out of your money. You just have a conveniently narrow definition of "deceive". Funeral homes use guilt to manipulate people into believing that they are somehow doing their loved ones a disservice by going with "inferior" (hint: they're not) third-party coffins and the like. Saying that isn't deception is a child's argument. > Obviously they aren't trying to make the best decision for you Yeah, in other words: "It's their fault for falling for it". Victim blaming is built in to our increasingly sociopathic culture.
- toolz 5y ago
  I've bought a coffin and an urn outside of the funeral home that provided us with their services. Neither times was I told our decision was inferior. The point you seem to have latched onto as the most representative of your argument doesn't appear to hold water.
  - AnIdiotOnTheNet 5y ago
    Do you know why the The Funeral Rule exists? It wasn't because this sort of thing was rare.