> According to you, seeing as almost every country in history was run exclusively for the benefit of the ruling class, none of them had a reason to exist? Hmm.

> According to you, seeing as almost every country in history was run exclusively for the benefit of the ruling class, none of them had a reason to exist? Hmm... with "reason to exist" I meant the reason why they were "created" in the first place. This is an interesting article that expands on how corporation "rights" have changed since foundation (take the historical data points more than the underlying political bias): https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_rights_magazine_home/we-the-people/we-the-people-corporations/ https://www.americanbar.org/groups/crsj/publications/human_r... > Agreed. But i think it's a problem in the system itself. The us have a binary choice between hilary/biden and trump with no middle ground. Indeed! I believe the problem in the system is even deeper. Regardless of your values or your preferred policies, I really feel hilary/biden/trump is a very poor display for the United States. The selection process that brought them there is not working. Smart people avoid going into politics in the first place because of this selection process. People don't want to spend their days arguing with a guy with bogus claim that is only trying to bring them down.