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Objectivity seems to be the biggest causality of COVID... The vast majority of people have "picked a side" and will use any data they deem to be advantage to t

by syshum 5y ago

Objectivity seems to be the biggest causality of COVID... The vast majority of people have "picked a side" and will use any data they deem to be advantage to their side to highlight how they were right, and ignore any data that disproves their side. This is true for both the "science" class and the political class. "Trust the science" has become a "Trust the science that agrees with my worldview, ignore the rest" For politicians that is expected for people that claim to be "scientists" that has become an alarming trend over the last 24 mos'

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skeeter2020 5y ago
> Trust the science" I find this statement, which we hear ad infinitum from every direction, to be indistigushable from "trust in god". This "Science" thing is the new faith.
- BoxOfRain 5y ago
  I think a lot of politicians lacked and still lack the moral courage to say “we don’t know yet” or “we’re acting out of caution as the science isn’t clear”. I’m not sure how we can devise a system of politics where moral courage doesn’t conflict with career progression, perhaps a nonpartisan democracy would be better for this but that may have issues of its own.
  - syshum 5y ago
    I think the bigger problem here is not "we’re acting out of caution as the science" but more that politicians are incapable of saying "we are NOT going to act because the science is unclear" They must be seen as ALWAYS doing something, anything, to solve every perceived problem. This is the root cause of most of the issues, Just once I would love to see a politician say "This is not for government to solve" ... Just once...
  - t0bia_s 5y ago
    Because it is what we learn in school as kids. We are persecuted for saying "I don't know" and here we are. Everybody have opinions on everything. A lot of people think, that they know a lot. But actually only few people actually know something.
- syshum 5y ago
  Some of this is because instead of presenting data, we are now presenting personalities. When people in media, or politicians say "Trust the science" they do not point to a piece of data, or research, they instead point to a person, often a high profile person, that we are to trust. I trust data, not people.
  - t0bia_s 5y ago
    Obtaining that data you trust depends on different methods.

by syshum 5y ago

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skeeter2020 5y ago

> Trust the science" I find this statement, which we hear ad infinitum from every direction, to be indistigushable from "trust in god". This "Science" thing is the new faith.

BoxOfRain 5y ago
I think a lot of politicians lacked and still lack the moral courage to say “we don’t know yet” or “we’re acting out of caution as the science isn’t clear”. I’m not sure how we can devise a system of politics where moral courage doesn’t conflict with career progression, perhaps a nonpartisan democracy would be better for this but that may have issues of its own.
- syshum 5y ago
  I think the bigger problem here is not "we’re acting out of caution as the science" but more that politicians are incapable of saying "we are NOT going to act because the science is unclear" They must be seen as ALWAYS doing something, anything, to solve every perceived problem. This is the root cause of most of the issues, Just once I would love to see a politician say "This is not for government to solve" ... Just once...
- t0bia_s 5y ago
  Because it is what we learn in school as kids. We are persecuted for saying "I don't know" and here we are. Everybody have opinions on everything. A lot of people think, that they know a lot. But actually only few people actually know something.
syshum 5y ago
Some of this is because instead of presenting data, we are now presenting personalities. When people in media, or politicians say "Trust the science" they do not point to a piece of data, or research, they instead point to a person, often a high profile person, that we are to trust. I trust data, not people.
- t0bia_s 5y ago
  Obtaining that data you trust depends on different methods.