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Netherlands has just imposed lockdown measures even though they're more than 80% vaccinated, I wonder at what point are we going to call this bluff, and I say t
by paganel 5y ago
Netherlands has just imposed lockdown measures even though they're more than 80% vaccinated, I wonder at what point are we going to call this bluff, and I say this as a vaccinated person (including the booster shot).
- jimmaswell 5y agoIt's such a political thing that many people are going to support government measures and wear masks at family gatherings for the rest of their lives. I wouldn't be surprised if some things like masks at the post office last forever at this point regardless of necessity.
- GaryTang 5y agoThis is location dependent. If you live in such a community, I recommend exploring your options.
- jimmaswell 5y agoThe post office is a federal thing here so it wouldn't matter where I moved. My own state hasn't had general mask mandates or capacity restrictions etc. for most of the year.
- fifilura 5y agoPost office? Long time since I heard those two words together. What country are you from? Looking at how quickly the disappeared from Sweden (merged into grocery stores) I would not be very surprised if they are gone in your country too before whatever mask mandatory you have.
- jimmaswell 5y agoUnited States
- skeeter2020 5y agoWe're still living with the outcome of 9/11 and the security theatre you experience everytime you travel; Covid has been far more imnpactful and we're already seeing eternal "amber health states" that I don't see ever disappearing.
- pfortuny 5y agoOh but you know? You are vaccinated but not vaccinated enough! And so on. We are secure but… not enough!
- MadeThisToReply 5y agoRemember: vaccine passports are only a temporary measure until we've got the virus under control. Oh, and you're going to need a booster jab every six months, but stop asking questions.
- yxhuvud 5y agoAre most of the ones that end up in your hospitals and die unvaccinated? If so, vaccination is worth it.
- johnyzee 5y agoNow that you mention it, they post a lot of covid statistics daily in the media here, but none of them are 'How many of new infections are vaccinated people'.
- riekus 5y agoThey are with holding the hard data, apparently for privacy concerns.. How ironic.
- zihotki 5y agoYes, according to https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/10/some-75-of-hospital-coronavirus-patients-are-not-vaccinated-rivm/ https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2021/10/some-75-of-hospital-co... which links to official RIVM the majority is not vaccinated. It's indeed worth it.
- t0bia_s 5y agoWe don't know medical records of those dead people. There is not only covid you can die from.