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Behringer's goal has always been to make stuff cheap enough that people can afford. Which is noble, except they do this entirely by ripping off other people's R
by ixfo 5y ago
Behringer's goal has always been to make stuff cheap enough that people can afford. Which is noble, except they do this entirely by ripping off other people's R&D and undercutting lots of people including smaller players.
Also Uli Behringer himself is completely mad and appears to be pretty chill with antisemitism. https://www.gearnews.com/uli-behringer-responds-to-the-corksniffer-video-fiasco/ https://www.gearnews.com/uli-behringer-responds-to-the-corks...
tl;dr don't support Behringer, please.
- liotier 5y agoThe Neutron is an exception - it is one of the few Behringer products that is an original creation and not a cheap clone of a reputed instrument. Also, there is nothing like it anywhere near that price range. I bought a Neutron, but I would feel dirty buying a clone of something that is still in production. Some background, for those who don't yet know the controversy surrounding Behringer clones: https://www.factmag.com/2017/04/08/behringer-minimoog-synth-clones/ https://www.factmag.com/2017/04/08/behringer-minimoog-synth-...
- smoldesu 5y agoYep. I don't feel bad about them ripping off the Moog Model D when your only other option is to buy an authentic recreation at 10-15x the price.
- comboy 5y agoOr downloading official Model D app made by Moog for $14.99 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/minimoog-model-d-synthesizer/id1339418001 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/minimoog-model-d-synthesizer/i... It sounds amazing.
- smoldesu 5y agoThat's not an analogue device though, so it's not a like comparison. Anyone can build a digital Model D these days, but mass-producing a piece of discontinued hardware at less than a tenth of the price is a different ball game altogether.
- smoldesu 5y agoI don't really care about the politics of it, I'm just shopping for cheap gear and they're the only ones pushing out quality synths at affordable prices. If Moog or Korg were actually competing in the low-end business there might be a different story, but I couldn't care less when Behringer's stuff sounds so good.
- uxp100 5y agoThis is not really a competitor to the behringer semi modular analog synths that upset some people, but an inexpensive synth I'd highly recommend is the Arturia Microfreak.
- multjoy 5y agoBack in the 00's, I toured as a sound engineer. Behringer turned up in all manner of touring racks.
- deeblering4 5y agoIt sounds good because they are ripping designs off and mass producing clones for cheap. In terms of build quality and feel there is a huge difference between a Moog or Korg and a Behringer. Behringer gear is made with the absolute cheapest components available and that becomes obvious as soon as you touch it.
- genewitch 5y agoSo they're the MFJ of the audio world? I'm fine with that.
- joecool1029 5y agoThe ripping off of designs stuff is lame and enough to avoid but the 'antisemitism' smear comes from a poorly thought out gag video[1] that's honestly more offensive to the French if anything. [1] https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7mgsIjQXZ7c https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7mgsIjQXZ7c
- nr2x 5y agoThey also routinely go after journalists and critics, in at least one case by using antisemitic tropes (as you noted).
- ratww 5y ago> Which is noble, except they do this entirely by ripping off other people's R&D and undercutting lots of people including smaller players. Most smaller player are also ripping off "other people's R&D". The only difference is that they charge 5x, 10x what Behringer charges. An extremely small number of people are doing new stuff. It's even worse with guitar stuff. There are several Tube Screamer clones that sell for 250, 300, while the original is still under production for 120. The constant complaining about Behringer's one that costs $20 is petty and privileged. No to mention Behringer has some pretty cool original designs. The Deepmind comes to mind. Poor people also deserve to make music. You can bet I'll keep supporting them.
- posterboy 5y ago> Poor people also deserve to make music. You can bet I'll keep supporting them. Get a free software solution.
- DennisP 5y agoTo the extent they're doing vintage clones with circuits that are long past any patents, that's how the system is supposed to work. I don't see how anyone can complain about their Model D, for example. The original was released half a century ago.