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Postmark, for sure. Run by a small dev shop called Wildbit that is bootstrapped, treats their employees fairly, and grows in small sustainable ways. https://po

by z3ugma 5y ago

Postmark, for sure. Run by a small dev shop called Wildbit that is bootstrapped, treats their employees fairly, and grows in small sustainable ways. https://postmarkapp.com/ https://postmarkapp.com/ https://wildbit.com/ https://wildbit.com/

agrunyan 5y ago
Second this 100%. Postmark is my go-to for every project
- evandwight 5y ago
  Why not use AWS ses? It's so much cheaper.
  - aledalgrande 5y ago
    UX and support?
  - svacko 5y ago
    One important decision argument against AWS SES is their policy to keep bounce rate below 5% (account put under review, if unresolevd until end of month, will be suspended, with hard limit of 10%) [1] compared to least strict Postmark's bounce rate of 10% [2]. Sometimes for SAAS products with a huge userbase or freemium pricing model is super difficult to keep the bounce rate so low for transactional emails. [1] https://docs.aws.amazon.com/pinpoint/latest/userguide/channels-email-deliverability-dashboard-bounce-complaint.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/pinpoint/latest/userguide/channe... [2] https://postmarkapp.com/support/article/1137-servers-faq https://postmarkapp.com/support/article/1137-servers-faq
    - webbie917 5y ago
      Policy like this is meant to protect sender reputation, not just provider IP pool. High hard bounce rate lowers your inboxing in the long term. If your bounce rate is consistently above 5% consider verifying all new emails before sending them an email > https://www.bigmailer.io/blog/email-verification-service-provider-comparison/ https://www.bigmailer.io/blog/email-verification-service-pro... Natural email decay rate is 2-3% per month so the goal is to stay close to this range, but the lower the better.
FearlessNebula 5y ago
What's the advantage here over SendGrid? SendGrid has an unlimited free tier of 100 emails per day, and for $15/mo you can send up to 40k emails/mo. Postmark does have a lower $10/mo starting price for 10k emails per month. But the next jump is $50/mo for 50k emails. I'm currently working on a project and intended to use SendGrid, so I'm wondering if there's any benefits of Postmark.
- aledalgrande 5y ago
  I opened an account with Sendgrid for a new project the other week. Account got banned right away, didn't even log in one time and they said to contact support to get it unblocked. Only issue is to contact support you have to be logged in and their alternative form also wants you to log in. Sendgrid is not friendly.
  - prophesi 5y ago
    Cool, a highly unlikely anomaly that can't be proven.
  - maxk42 5y ago
    Are you using linux, by chance? Recently I've noticed Amazon, Google, and others reporting my logins from linux as "suspicious activity". I've never logged-in from another OS, so I'm wondering if they're all relying on some third-party service that automatically equates linux with "suspicious".
    - j45 5y ago
      It could be that Linux drive spam bots are using their system.
      - sodality2 5y ago
        Spoofing the user agent is probably the first thing these spam bots would do.
    - 5y ago
Spone 5y ago
Their customer support is really top-notch!

by z3ugma 5y ago

agrunyan 5y ago

Second this 100%. Postmark is my go-to for every project

evandwight 5y ago
Why not use AWS ses? It's so much cheaper.
- aledalgrande 5y ago
  UX and support?
- svacko 5y ago
  One important decision argument against AWS SES is their policy to keep bounce rate below 5% (account put under review, if unresolevd until end of month, will be suspended, with hard limit of 10%) [1] compared to least strict Postmark's bounce rate of 10% [2]. Sometimes for SAAS products with a huge userbase or freemium pricing model is super difficult to keep the bounce rate so low for transactional emails. [1] https://docs.aws.amazon.com/pinpoint/latest/userguide/channels-email-deliverability-dashboard-bounce-complaint.html https://docs.aws.amazon.com/pinpoint/latest/userguide/channe... [2] https://postmarkapp.com/support/article/1137-servers-faq https://postmarkapp.com/support/article/1137-servers-faq
  - webbie917 5y ago
    Policy like this is meant to protect sender reputation, not just provider IP pool. High hard bounce rate lowers your inboxing in the long term. If your bounce rate is consistently above 5% consider verifying all new emails before sending them an email > https://www.bigmailer.io/blog/email-verification-service-provider-comparison/ https://www.bigmailer.io/blog/email-verification-service-pro... Natural email decay rate is 2-3% per month so the goal is to stay close to this range, but the lower the better.

FearlessNebula 5y ago

What's the advantage here over SendGrid? SendGrid has an unlimited free tier of 100 emails per day, and for $15/mo you can send up to 40k emails/mo. Postmark does have a lower $10/mo starting price for 10k emails per month. But the next jump is $50/mo for 50k emails. I'm currently working on a project and intended to use SendGrid, so I'm wondering if there's any benefits of Postmark.

aledalgrande 5y ago
I opened an account with Sendgrid for a new project the other week. Account got banned right away, didn't even log in one time and they said to contact support to get it unblocked. Only issue is to contact support you have to be logged in and their alternative form also wants you to log in. Sendgrid is not friendly.
- prophesi 5y ago
  Cool, a highly unlikely anomaly that can't be proven.
- maxk42 5y ago
  Are you using linux, by chance? Recently I've noticed Amazon, Google, and others reporting my logins from linux as "suspicious activity". I've never logged-in from another OS, so I'm wondering if they're all relying on some third-party service that automatically equates linux with "suspicious".
  - j45 5y ago
    It could be that Linux drive spam bots are using their system.
    - sodality2 5y ago
      Spoofing the user agent is probably the first thing these spam bots would do.
  - 5y ago

Spone 5y ago

Their customer support is really top-notch!