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Any source available on this?

by gfosco 5y ago

aemreunal 5y ago
You can easily find sources with a simple Google search. I searched for "myocarditis risk of covid vs covid vaccine" and the second organic result is from Nature [1] and states: > Previous research co-authored by Balicer found that in this age group, becoming infected with SARS-CoV-2 made a person 18 times more likely to develop myocarditis — a much more significant risk than is observed following vaccination. Sources are in the article. You can easily find sources for COVID, please try searching it yourself first. [1]: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02740-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02740-y
- beaned 5y ago
  Might depend partly on age as well: "Healthy boys may be more likely to be admitted to hospital with a rare side-effect of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine that causes inflammation of the heart than with Covid itself, US researchers claim." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-r...
  - nojokes 5y ago
    One of the authors, Tracy Beth Høeg, was clearly against any children vaccination way before authoring this biased and heavily criticized paper.
  - goblin89 5y ago
    > Healthy boys may be more likely to be admitted to hospital with a rare side-effect of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine that causes inflammation of the heart than with Covid itself, US researchers claim. Anecdata from another thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29122896 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29122896
staticassertion 5y ago
It's hard to Google for sources on this since you just get people talking about the vaccine. Here's something I found: > Across all ages, the risk of myocarditis was almost 16 times higher for people with COVID-19 compared to those who aren’t infected. The myocarditis risk is 37 times higher for infected children under 16 years and seven times higher for infected people ages 16-39 compared to their uninfected peers. https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/16388 https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/16388
- beaned 5y ago
  That particular quote seems to be comparing infected to non-infected, not infected to vaccinated.
  - staticassertion 5y ago
    Yes, I thought that was clear. That is what I was trying to find.
    - beaned 5y ago
      I see. But I think the question at hand raised by OP is infected vs vaccinated, not infected vs uninfected? > My understanding is that the incidence of myocarditis is much higher in a COVID infection than from any of the vaccines.
      - staticassertion 5y ago
        Yes it takes one extra step to answer that question. We have numbers comparing infected to uninfected, and numbers comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated (and presumably uninfected).

Any source available on this?

by gfosco 5y ago

Any source available on this?

You can easily find sources with a simple Google search. I searched for "myocarditis risk of covid vs covid vaccine" and the second organic result is from Nature [1] and states: > Previous research co-authored by Balicer found that in this age group, becoming infected with SARS-CoV-2 made a person 18 times more likely to develop myocarditis — a much more significant risk than is observed following vaccination. Sources are in the article. You can easily find sources for COVID, please try searching it yourself first. [1]: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02740-y https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02740-y

beaned 5y ago
Might depend partly on age as well: "Healthy boys may be more likely to be admitted to hospital with a rare side-effect of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine that causes inflammation of the heart than with Covid itself, US researchers claim." https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-risk-from-pfizer-jab-side-effect-than-covid-suggests-study https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/10/boys-more-at-r...
- nojokes 5y ago
  One of the authors, Tracy Beth Høeg, was clearly against any children vaccination way before authoring this biased and heavily criticized paper.
- goblin89 5y ago
  > Healthy boys may be more likely to be admitted to hospital with a rare side-effect of the Pfizer/BioNTech Covid vaccine that causes inflammation of the heart than with Covid itself, US researchers claim. Anecdata from another thread: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29122896 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29122896

staticassertion 5y ago

It's hard to Google for sources on this since you just get people talking about the vaccine. Here's something I found: > Across all ages, the risk of myocarditis was almost 16 times higher for people with COVID-19 compared to those who aren’t infected. The myocarditis risk is 37 times higher for infected children under 16 years and seven times higher for infected people ages 16-39 compared to their uninfected peers. https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/16388 https://publications.aap.org/aapnews/news/16388

beaned 5y ago
That particular quote seems to be comparing infected to non-infected, not infected to vaccinated.
- staticassertion 5y ago
  Yes, I thought that was clear. That is what I was trying to find.
  - beaned 5y ago
    I see. But I think the question at hand raised by OP is infected vs vaccinated, not infected vs uninfected? > My understanding is that the incidence of myocarditis is much higher in a COVID infection than from any of the vaccines.
    - staticassertion 5y ago
      Yes it takes one extra step to answer that question. We have numbers comparing infected to uninfected, and numbers comparing vaccinated to unvaccinated (and presumably uninfected).