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This is a hilarious comment. Granted this forum has an over-abundance of the so-called academic elite and so phrases like "low intelligence" and "work ethic" ca

This is a hilarious comment. Granted this forum has an over-abundance of the so-called academic elite and so phrases like "low intelligence" and "work ethic" can be passed around with impunity. But what I cant look past is the audacity to suggest and eveb imply that historical migrants from Europe(mostly) worked hard and had some magically higher IQ. What? If even the academic elite, who pride themselves in their rational objectivity, can whitewash history to that extent - it is worrisome. Truly frightening. Just chalk it up to being the worlds pop cultural, economic center - and deal with it. People have always migrated to the country/state where the opportunity to prosper is greatest. It's osmosis and you can't really stop it until and unless the US becomes a third world country devoid of wealth, freedom and opportunity.

0xy 5y ago
Europeans do have a higher average IQ than places like Sudan which has an average IQ in the 70 range. To put this in perspective, the US Army generally doesn't accept people below 85 IQ because they are ineffective in any position (yes, they are considered inadequate to be a janitor). You also didn't address my point about values or crime, both of which are proven. Particularly, some immigrant groups have huge portions of support for groups like ISIS. [1] That's before we get into the homophobia and abuse of women. [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and...
- vagrantJin 5y ago
  Does the IQ test cater to Sudanese or Europeans? See, heres the thing: some countries really have no implicit interest in [copying] or attempting to define themselves by European standards. Does that make sense? So things like western education (countries like S.Korea, Japan, India and China being the exceptional European standard [chasers?]) Will always score not western countries lower because the west is the defacto standard due to colonization and globalization. To put it in simpler terms, we can't judge a fish by its ability to climb trees as the adage goes. Which is interesting because sone countries overall growth and development strategy is based on copying verbatim the trajectory of 20th century Europe/US and offering no alternative. This is a false suggestion that European standards are the end all, the pinnacle of human progress. Just a though dear fellow. Just a thought.

0xy 5y ago

Europeans do have a higher average IQ than places like Sudan which has an average IQ in the 70 range. To put this in perspective, the US Army generally doesn't accept people below 85 IQ because they are ineffective in any position (yes, they are considered inadequate to be a janitor). You also didn't address my point about values or crime, both of which are proven. Particularly, some immigrant groups have huge portions of support for groups like ISIS. [1] That's before we get into the homophobia and abuse of women. [1] https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and-islam-key-findings-in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world/ https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/08/09/muslims-and...

vagrantJin 5y ago
Does the IQ test cater to Sudanese or Europeans? See, heres the thing: some countries really have no implicit interest in [copying] or attempting to define themselves by European standards. Does that make sense? So things like western education (countries like S.Korea, Japan, India and China being the exceptional European standard [chasers?]) Will always score not western countries lower because the west is the defacto standard due to colonization and globalization. To put it in simpler terms, we can't judge a fish by its ability to climb trees as the adage goes. Which is interesting because sone countries overall growth and development strategy is based on copying verbatim the trajectory of 20th century Europe/US and offering no alternative. This is a false suggestion that European standards are the end all, the pinnacle of human progress. Just a though dear fellow. Just a thought.