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Are you for real? Comparing vaccines with literal Nazis?

dham 5y ago
* treatment. They're comparing a short term treatment to Nazi's. I mean it does seem like a slippery slope.
xupybd 5y ago
Removing the opposition's right to vote is a NAZI tactic. Every totalitarian government started with tactics like this. Often campaigning on a popular platform. The vaccine is no different to the socialist utopia promised by the Soviets. The utopia is not the problem it's the means of getting there.
- cinntaile 5y ago
  It's a tactic of authoritarian regimes, it's not something unique to the nazi regime so calling it a nazi tactic is a bit of a stretch. Then again the GP never called it that anyway, he mentioned 2 authoritarian regimes.
- EdwardDiego 5y ago
  32 people voted against this. It only applies to 9 people. If they really want to oppose the government, get vaccinated, like the rest of the country is going to have to do.
  - xupybd 5y ago
    First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.(Martin Niemöller)
    - EdwardDiego 5y ago
      No-one is coming for anyone. Let me show you how far you've drawn your bow, by reductio ad absurdum. > First they came for the drink drivers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a drink driver. > Then they came for the heroin dealers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a heroin dealer. >Then they came for the construction companies that built buildings that collapsed and killed hundreds, and I did not speak out - because I didn't run a construction company that knowingly adulterated concrete to increase profits. These are all equivalent "mandates" to secure the public good. But hey, when the secret police start dragging unvaccinated people away to death camps, I'll freely admit you were right. Make sure to let me know when that happens.
      - xupybd 5y ago
        If you truly feel that refusing vaccination is equivalent to dealing heroin, killing hundreds through negligence or drunk driving I understand why you believe this a bad comparison. The vaccine no doubt lowers the health risk from getting COVID but it's looking like it does little to protect anyone but the vaccinated person.
        EdwardDiego 5y ago
        Less likelihood of infection, lower viral load when infected = less spread.
        Ekaros 5y ago
        Not zero spread. So why don't we just lockdown until we have permanent solution?
      - dang 5y ago
        Would you please stop doing this, regardless of how wrong others are or you feel they are? maybe you don't feel you owe better to people you consider wrong, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
- selfhoster11 5y ago
  Explain how this removes anyone's right to vote. In pretty much every country, there was always a way to vote: by post, while wearing a mask at the polling station, and presumably online where supported.
fithisux 5y ago
Human experimentation is a Nazi trademark.
Ekaros 5y ago
Locking people up in their houses. Preventing politicians from voting? Fining businesses that don't violate rights of their employees... Sounds pretty much like fascism and socialism, after all National Socialist party did this in Germany. Now the modern left is following in exactly those footsteps.

dham 5y ago

* treatment. They're comparing a short term treatment to Nazi's. I mean it does seem like a slippery slope.

Removing the opposition's right to vote is a NAZI tactic. Every totalitarian government started with tactics like this. Often campaigning on a popular platform. The vaccine is no different to the socialist utopia promised by the Soviets. The utopia is not the problem it's the means of getting there.

cinntaile 5y ago
It's a tactic of authoritarian regimes, it's not something unique to the nazi regime so calling it a nazi tactic is a bit of a stretch. Then again the GP never called it that anyway, he mentioned 2 authoritarian regimes.
EdwardDiego 5y ago
32 people voted against this. It only applies to 9 people. If they really want to oppose the government, get vaccinated, like the rest of the country is going to have to do.
- xupybd 5y ago
  First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a socialist. Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.(Martin Niemöller)
  - EdwardDiego 5y ago
    No-one is coming for anyone. Let me show you how far you've drawn your bow, by reductio ad absurdum. > First they came for the drink drivers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a drink driver. > Then they came for the heroin dealers, and I did not speak out— Because I was not a heroin dealer. >Then they came for the construction companies that built buildings that collapsed and killed hundreds, and I did not speak out - because I didn't run a construction company that knowingly adulterated concrete to increase profits. These are all equivalent "mandates" to secure the public good. But hey, when the secret police start dragging unvaccinated people away to death camps, I'll freely admit you were right. Make sure to let me know when that happens.
    - xupybd 5y ago
      If you truly feel that refusing vaccination is equivalent to dealing heroin, killing hundreds through negligence or drunk driving I understand why you believe this a bad comparison. The vaccine no doubt lowers the health risk from getting COVID but it's looking like it does little to protect anyone but the vaccinated person.
      - EdwardDiego 5y ago
        Less likelihood of infection, lower viral load when infected = less spread.
        Ekaros 5y ago
        Not zero spread. So why don't we just lockdown until we have permanent solution?
    - dang 5y ago
      Would you please stop doing this, regardless of how wrong others are or you feel they are? maybe you don't feel you owe better to people you consider wrong, but you owe this community better if you're participating in it. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.
selfhoster11 5y ago
Explain how this removes anyone's right to vote. In pretty much every country, there was always a way to vote: by post, while wearing a mask at the polling station, and presumably online where supported.

fithisux 5y ago

Human experimentation is a Nazi trademark.

Ekaros 5y ago

Locking people up in their houses. Preventing politicians from voting? Fining businesses that don't violate rights of their employees... Sounds pretty much like fascism and socialism, after all National Socialist party did this in Germany. Now the modern left is following in exactly those footsteps.