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I'm sure this headline has nothing to do with the massive supply of expiring vials that pharmaceutical companies are desperately hoping to turn a profit on.

kristopolous 5y ago
We had a choice to make things government control without a profit motive, to ignore IP law and have a Trips waiver, to nationalize healthcare, and we said no to all of them and the result is a system where there's supposed to be a profit motive reason behind everything. Isn't this what everyone wanted? Everything being run "like a business" to maximize profits? Wasn't that how we all intentionally set it up? Shouldn't y'all be feverishly shaking the pom poms and doing backflips and squad cheers for capitalist efficiencies and the free market?
thatswrong0 5y ago
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255 Probably has to do with the fact that the booster is effective.
- giga_chad 5y ago
  That's what they say, Pfizer has a history of bribing doctors, falsifying study results, and suppressing results they don't like[0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer#Legal_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer#Legal_issues
  - foogazi 5y ago
    Wait you are a 20 year old with high levels of vitamin D, low risk of death from covid[0], with an account created 3 days ago that ALSO has major doubts about a vaccine maker? Hmm [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29203902#29204901 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29203902#29204901
    - Aurelius3 5y ago
      >"Yes that's me, how could you tell?"
    - giga_chad 5y ago
      Yes, your point?
      - kelnos 5y ago
        I think the point is that people don't think your take on this is credible.
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        giga_chad 5y ago
        This is not "my take", but a statement of fact.
  - thatswrong0 5y ago
    This very clearly wasn't a study conducted by Pfizer. And there are a bunch of other studies that indicate the same thing. If you really think that they're capable of completely falsifying results of multiple studies performed by various governments and research institutions around the world by way of bribing _everyone_ involved, you have a lot more confidence in their ability to successfully pull of a giant, complex, illegal operation without getting caught than I do. This isn't to say that pharmaceutical companies don't engage in shady tactics when it comes to performing their own studies and bribing doctors, but this is a vastly different circumstance. They don't control these studies.

kristopolous 5y ago

We had a choice to make things government control without a profit motive, to ignore IP law and have a Trips waiver, to nationalize healthcare, and we said no to all of them and the result is a system where there's supposed to be a profit motive reason behind everything. Isn't this what everyone wanted? Everything being run "like a business" to maximize profits? Wasn't that how we all intentionally set it up? Shouldn't y'all be feverishly shaking the pom poms and doing backflips and squad cheers for capitalist efficiencies and the free market?

thatswrong0 5y ago

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255 https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2114255 Probably has to do with the fact that the booster is effective.

giga_chad 5y ago
That's what they say, Pfizer has a history of bribing doctors, falsifying study results, and suppressing results they don't like[0]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer#Legal_issues https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pfizer#Legal_issues
- foogazi 5y ago
  Wait you are a 20 year old with high levels of vitamin D, low risk of death from covid[0], with an account created 3 days ago that ALSO has major doubts about a vaccine maker? Hmm [0]: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29203902#29204901 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29203902#29204901
  - Aurelius3 5y ago
    >"Yes that's me, how could you tell?"
  - giga_chad 5y ago
    Yes, your point?
    - kelnos 5y ago
      I think the point is that people don't think your take on this is credible.
      - deleted 5y ago
        [deleted]
      - giga_chad 5y ago
        This is not "my take", but a statement of fact.
- thatswrong0 5y ago
  This very clearly wasn't a study conducted by Pfizer. And there are a bunch of other studies that indicate the same thing. If you really think that they're capable of completely falsifying results of multiple studies performed by various governments and research institutions around the world by way of bribing _everyone_ involved, you have a lot more confidence in their ability to successfully pull of a giant, complex, illegal operation without getting caught than I do. This isn't to say that pharmaceutical companies don't engage in shady tactics when it comes to performing their own studies and bribing doctors, but this is a vastly different circumstance. They don't control these studies.