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> I have been working remote for 17 years This suggests you are likely a member of the professional class. A lot of labor regulation in the US (my country) is

> I have been working remote for 17 years This suggests you are likely a member of the professional class. A lot of labor regulation in the US (my country) is intended to protect the working class, not the professional class. Perhaps that was the intention of your politicians? (This legislation does sound like treating a symptom, and not unlikely to have unintended detrimental consequences. But we should still empathize with and consider the needs of those workers less privileged than ourselves)

dymk 5y ago
That the law might work in one case doesn't justify it as a good law - the law should consider at least some of the edge cases, especially if it's going to negatively impact such a large class of workers as the "professional class". It's also unclear that there's no scenario in which the non "professional class" would benefit from being able to be texted by their boss.
- gkop 5y ago
  Where in my comment are you getting that I think it’s a good law? Bluntly, with my very limited context (no, I didn’t read the article), it sounds like a dumb law. I take to heart original commenter’s complaint that their country’s politicians produce a large volume of dumb laws, I hope disgust with the median politician is something we can all agree on.
  - leanstartupnoob 5y ago
    Hard to read your comment as anything other than defending the law as "something must be done" to protect the poor non-professionals.
    - OJFord 5y ago
      'treating a symptom [not the cause]' is basically an idiom for 'at best meh'.
noduerme 5y ago
>> But we should still empathize with and consider the needs of those workers less privileged than ourselves Why? Or else what? They might look for better jobs?
- geon 5y ago
  Or else you are not a good person.
- idiocratic 5y ago
  Not everyone can have a better job. Sorry but your comment reveals how little empathy we, software engineers, can have at times.
  - noduerme 5y ago
    >> Not everyone can have a better job I'd counter that your comment reveals disdain for people who you wrongly assume can't improve their skills or economic outlook. I could make a long list of people I know who taught themselves new skills and leveled up to new jobs - code or otherwise - without the need for "empathy" from someone who was certain they were less "privileged" and therefore should be pitied.
    - apocolyps6 5y ago
      So for the 97% of humanity that are worse off than american software engineers, you think they are just not trying hard enough?
      - noduerme 5y ago
        You might have way too high an idea of the place software engineers occupy in the economic and social hierarchy. We're trash compared to the money people. I just choose not to be angry about it, so I hope the guy serving me a burger chooses not to be angry about my job placement too; I'm more than happy to tutor him.
    - eggsmediumrare 5y ago

dymk 5y ago

That the law might work in one case doesn't justify it as a good law - the law should consider at least some of the edge cases, especially if it's going to negatively impact such a large class of workers as the "professional class". It's also unclear that there's no scenario in which the non "professional class" would benefit from being able to be texted by their boss.

gkop 5y ago
Where in my comment are you getting that I think it’s a good law? Bluntly, with my very limited context (no, I didn’t read the article), it sounds like a dumb law. I take to heart original commenter’s complaint that their country’s politicians produce a large volume of dumb laws, I hope disgust with the median politician is something we can all agree on.
- leanstartupnoob 5y ago
  Hard to read your comment as anything other than defending the law as "something must be done" to protect the poor non-professionals.
  - OJFord 5y ago
    'treating a symptom [not the cause]' is basically an idiom for 'at best meh'.

noduerme 5y ago

>> But we should still empathize with and consider the needs of those workers less privileged than ourselves Why? Or else what? They might look for better jobs?

geon 5y ago
Or else you are not a good person.
idiocratic 5y ago
Not everyone can have a better job. Sorry but your comment reveals how little empathy we, software engineers, can have at times.
- noduerme 5y ago
  >> Not everyone can have a better job I'd counter that your comment reveals disdain for people who you wrongly assume can't improve their skills or economic outlook. I could make a long list of people I know who taught themselves new skills and leveled up to new jobs - code or otherwise - without the need for "empathy" from someone who was certain they were less "privileged" and therefore should be pitied.
  - apocolyps6 5y ago
    So for the 97% of humanity that are worse off than american software engineers, you think they are just not trying hard enough?
    - noduerme 5y ago
      You might have way too high an idea of the place software engineers occupy in the economic and social hierarchy. We're trash compared to the money people. I just choose not to be angry about it, so I hope the guy serving me a burger chooses not to be angry about my job placement too; I'm more than happy to tutor him.
  - eggsmediumrare 5y ago