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I am an experienced Linux user and I sometimes find myself wondering how much more I will put up with. Oh, sorry, did you not like that unexpected UI change?

I am an experienced Linux user and I sometimes find myself wondering how much more I will put up with. Oh, sorry, did you not like that unexpected UI change? Fsck off, some GNOME developer decided to do it and you are not allowed to change it unless you install some random "extension" from some random developer on Reddit. Oh, sorry, did you spend a day getting Pulseaudio to work as well as ALSA had worked? Great news, Pulseaudio was replaced with PipeWire, which is "functionally compatible" but only for the specific configuration a handful of developers happened to have on their systems, so get ready to spend another day trying to get audio working. Oh, you had a ZaphodHeads configuration working with Xorg for a few years? Cool story bro, now we use Wayland, and it is definitely the same as X11 in all the ways we care about, but that does not include anything like Zaphod, because we're busy with other stuff and anyway who cares about multihead systems? I suppose that is what I get for using Fedora, which was supposedly Red Hat's "desktop strategy" but was never even remotely ready for a typical desktop user...

maccolgan 5y ago
This is what you get for using an user hostile distro though, if you don't want changes forced down your throat you shouldn't be using either Fedora or Windows.
gavinray 5y ago
> Oh, sorry, did you not like that unexpected UI change? Fsck off, some GNOME developer decided to do it and you are not allowed to change it unless you install some random "extension" from some random developer on Reddit. > Oh, sorry, did you spend a day getting Pulseaudio to work as well as ALSA had worked? Great news, Pulseaudio was replaced with PipeWire, which is "functionally compatible" but only for the specific configuration a handful of developers happened to have on their systems, so get ready to spend another day trying to get audio working. > Oh, you had a ZaphodHeads configuration working with Xorg for a few years? Cool story bro, now we use Wayland, and it is definitely the same as X11 in all the ways we care about, but that does not include anything like Zaphod, because we're busy with other stuff and anyway who cares about multihead systems? Damn, now that you put it like that... Yeah, I've been through all of these and suppose I just never thought about it. (Well, not the "Zaphod" thing, not familiar with what that is, but the general X11/Wayland debacle).
ajvs 5y ago
Agree about GNOME - I'm very happy with the relatively unopinonated KDE now. Older audio systems still work, I just swapped to PipeWire this week in 10 mins and had no issues. Try the current release. Xorg has been on maintenance for years, Wayland isn't a flawless replacement yet but with the irreparable flaws in X and it's security risks I'm personally glad to jump ship now.

maccolgan 5y ago

This is what you get for using an user hostile distro though, if you don't want changes forced down your throat you shouldn't be using either Fedora or Windows.

gavinray 5y ago

> Oh, sorry, did you not like that unexpected UI change? Fsck off, some GNOME developer decided to do it and you are not allowed to change it unless you install some random "extension" from some random developer on Reddit. > Oh, sorry, did you spend a day getting Pulseaudio to work as well as ALSA had worked? Great news, Pulseaudio was replaced with PipeWire, which is "functionally compatible" but only for the specific configuration a handful of developers happened to have on their systems, so get ready to spend another day trying to get audio working. > Oh, you had a ZaphodHeads configuration working with Xorg for a few years? Cool story bro, now we use Wayland, and it is definitely the same as X11 in all the ways we care about, but that does not include anything like Zaphod, because we're busy with other stuff and anyway who cares about multihead systems? Damn, now that you put it like that... Yeah, I've been through all of these and suppose I just never thought about it. (Well, not the "Zaphod" thing, not familiar with what that is, but the general X11/Wayland debacle).

ajvs 5y ago

Agree about GNOME - I'm very happy with the relatively unopinonated KDE now. Older audio systems still work, I just swapped to PipeWire this week in 10 mins and had no issues. Try the current release. Xorg has been on maintenance for years, Wayland isn't a flawless replacement yet but with the irreparable flaws in X and it's security risks I'm personally glad to jump ship now.