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You cant install windows 11 on older hardware > turns out you can You cant update to windows 11 on older hardware > turns out you can You cant set a different

by noxer 5y ago

You cant install windows 11 on older hardware > turns out you can You cant update to windows 11 on older hardware > turns out you can You cant set a different default browser > turns out you can You cant set a different default browser (again) > turns out you can There is zero reason to believe that this will stay. Also its a dev build its not like this breaks anyone's workflow unless someone choose to work on a dev build and therefore accepted such and way worse hiccups.

xg15 5y ago
Absolutely worth it to read the linked post by the EdgeDeflect author too: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competition.html https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competit... Even if you'll eventually somehow be able to circumvent this, I'm more baffled by the sheer amount of effort Microsoft puts into locking Edge as the (de-facto) default browser. The changes OP described show pretty clearly this is deliberate and not just for whatever technical reasons there could be. E.g. even if microsoft-edge:// links had some proprietary features that are required for OS integration - say, opening the page in a specific existing process or something - it makes no sense to rewrite ordinary https:// https:// urls into microsoft-edge:// urls - which Windows seems to be doing ("and links sent to the device from a paired Samsung or Android devices"). On the other hand, if they are so hell-bent on making Edge the default browser, why are they go through all the trouble with "link associations" and permit other browsers at all? By now it seems sort of odd they didn't simply hardwire https:// https:// to Edge directly. In any way, this smells like another antitrust lawsuit waiting around the corner.
- noxer 5y ago
  Why bother? I already know no one will talk about this in 3 weeks because its resolved and wont ever affect anyone running the release versions anyway.
  - xg15 5y ago
    Will it? So far it seems they are pretty persistent in blocking all workarounds. I don't think the users will bother so much, but the other browser vendors might take issue.
    - noxer 5y ago
      >they are pretty persistent in blocking all workarounds Weird interpretation of reality. Nothing is or has been blocked on the windows people actually use. Its only broken on a single dev build.
      - xg15 5y ago
        I mean, we'll see. If you're right and this really was just a technical mistake, more power to you. But to me, the change looks pretty deliberate. And if it was, I see no reason why Microsoft would want to fix it - at least without significant external pressure.
      - xg15 5y ago
        Addendum: It's officially mentioned in the release notes [1]: > We fixed an issue where OS functionality could be improperly redirected when microsoft-edge: links are invoked. [1] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/11/12/releasing-windows-11-build-22000-346-to-beta-and-release-preview-channels/ https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/11/12/releasi...
        noxer 5y ago
        You can use https://github.com/rcmaehl/MSEdgeRedirect https://github.com/rcmaehl/MSEdgeRedirect Also this https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector/issues/142#issuecomment-968687701 https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector/issues/142#issuecommen... setting might me important for some people.
boardwaalk 5y ago
This stuff doesn’t happen by accident. There’s clear intent here. They’re going to push as long as they can get away with it due to the inattentiveness or exhaustion by the public/tech community. These articles and this discussion is exactly the push back we need right now.
- noxer 5y ago
  Fixing windows one clickbait article at a time.

by noxer 5y ago

xg15 5y ago

Absolutely worth it to read the linked post by the EdgeDeflect author too: https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competition.html https://www.ctrl.blog/entry/microsoft-edge-protocol-competit... Even if you'll eventually somehow be able to circumvent this, I'm more baffled by the sheer amount of effort Microsoft puts into locking Edge as the (de-facto) default browser. The changes OP described show pretty clearly this is deliberate and not just for whatever technical reasons there could be. E.g. even if microsoft-edge:// links had some proprietary features that are required for OS integration - say, opening the page in a specific existing process or something - it makes no sense to rewrite ordinary https:// https:// urls into microsoft-edge:// urls - which Windows seems to be doing ("and links sent to the device from a paired Samsung or Android devices"). On the other hand, if they are so hell-bent on making Edge the default browser, why are they go through all the trouble with "link associations" and permit other browsers at all? By now it seems sort of odd they didn't simply hardwire https:// https:// to Edge directly. In any way, this smells like another antitrust lawsuit waiting around the corner.

noxer 5y ago
Why bother? I already know no one will talk about this in 3 weeks because its resolved and wont ever affect anyone running the release versions anyway.
- xg15 5y ago
  Will it? So far it seems they are pretty persistent in blocking all workarounds. I don't think the users will bother so much, but the other browser vendors might take issue.
  - noxer 5y ago
    >they are pretty persistent in blocking all workarounds Weird interpretation of reality. Nothing is or has been blocked on the windows people actually use. Its only broken on a single dev build.
    - xg15 5y ago
      I mean, we'll see. If you're right and this really was just a technical mistake, more power to you. But to me, the change looks pretty deliberate. And if it was, I see no reason why Microsoft would want to fix it - at least without significant external pressure.
    - xg15 5y ago
      Addendum: It's officially mentioned in the release notes [1]: > We fixed an issue where OS functionality could be improperly redirected when microsoft-edge: links are invoked. [1] https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/11/12/releasing-windows-11-build-22000-346-to-beta-and-release-preview-channels/ https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2021/11/12/releasi...
      - noxer 5y ago
        You can use https://github.com/rcmaehl/MSEdgeRedirect https://github.com/rcmaehl/MSEdgeRedirect Also this https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector/issues/142#issuecomment-968687701 https://github.com/da2x/EdgeDeflector/issues/142#issuecommen... setting might me important for some people.

boardwaalk 5y ago

This stuff doesn’t happen by accident. There’s clear intent here. They’re going to push as long as they can get away with it due to the inattentiveness or exhaustion by the public/tech community. These articles and this discussion is exactly the push back we need right now.

noxer 5y ago
Fixing windows one clickbait article at a time.