I thought the discussion between "mathematics only models the world" vs. alternatives wasn't settled? (most recently I'm referring to Roger Penrose's views on

I thought the discussion between "mathematics only models the world" vs. alternatives wasn't settled? (most recently I'm referring to Roger Penrose's views on the "epistemic argument against realism"[0], although I don't fully know where I stand myself) [0] https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Philosophy_of_mathematics#/Epistemic_argument_against_realism https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Philosophy_of_mathematics#/Epist...