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I used to be a kind of "power user" that was constantly tinkering my phone, but late settled down to basically just install apps, use apps like everyone else.

I used to be a kind of "power user" that was constantly tinkering my phone, but late settled down to basically just install apps, use apps like everyone else. Despite this, I still found iOS way too restricted even for average user. The fact you can't install 3rd party app alone makes certain daily task very miserable. I can't use Youtube vanced to skip ADs on YouTube, for example. The browsers suck due to forced webkit engine too. I do think Apple's hardware and HW/SW integration better, and I think Android should be more open (every major version, you have fewer and fewer things you can modify without rooting).

op00to 5y ago
You can pay for YouTube, and not have to see ads.
- alex-ant 5y ago
  Wrong website?
bmitc 5y ago
My major complaint with iOS is multitasking. Apps don’t run in the background, which is terrible for apps like OneDrive that need to run backups. You have to leave the app open to run an upload. Also, Android has split screen, which is pretty useful. For these reasons alone, iOS feels outdated. Other things I hate are all the hidden UI elements. You have to do a Google search to find out how to do things. For example, to close all Safari tabs, you have to press and hold a button. There’s tons of stuff like this. Searching for a word on a Safari webpage is incredibly fickle and still hard to get to. Text editing and the keyboard are awkward and frustrating as well. In general, I find a huge amount of hidden friction on iOS that I don’t find on Android.
- hansel_der 5y ago
  > Apps don’t run in the background afaik there's a setting for that (feature not a bug :)
  - bmitc 5y ago
    There is, and it’s turned on. Still doesn’t work unless I leave OneDrive open. “Just works.”
    - drcongo 5y ago
      That's the OneDrive app failing you I'm afraid, plenty of apps do this without issue.
      - bmitc 5y ago
        Doesn’t have the issue on Android, and doesn’t negate iOS having poor multitasking. This happens a lot for other apps too. Also, Android has picture-in-picture for many apps.
        drcongo 5y ago
        So does iOS.
      - muthuraj57 5y ago
        I don't agree with this. I use Google Photos to upload all my pictures and videos and it also gets killed when in background. Apple's iMovie app literally asks you to not put the app into background when rendering the video. This shows that apps in background will get killed mercilessly. Some Apple fans might argue this is better for battery, but it feels so primitive for me in 2021 to use a "smartphone" only to use one app at a time. Try sending media in whatsapp or post a media in Instagram/Facebook in low network condition and putting the app in background. It is literally impossible to do this in iPhone.
jareklupinski 5y ago
yesterday I wanted to transfer some photos i took using my iphone to a family member's PC turns out you need to toggle a setting in photos with the least helpful label ever. there is no indication this is the fix from the ios or PC side, and you can even transfer a few files over before the error pops up: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8351572 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8351572 that post was made 3 years ago on an android phone, the phone just shows up as a drive and lets you transfer any photos normally, "it just works" lmao

op00to 5y ago

You can pay for YouTube, and not have to see ads.

alex-ant 5y ago
Wrong website?

bmitc 5y ago

My major complaint with iOS is multitasking. Apps don’t run in the background, which is terrible for apps like OneDrive that need to run backups. You have to leave the app open to run an upload. Also, Android has split screen, which is pretty useful. For these reasons alone, iOS feels outdated. Other things I hate are all the hidden UI elements. You have to do a Google search to find out how to do things. For example, to close all Safari tabs, you have to press and hold a button. There’s tons of stuff like this. Searching for a word on a Safari webpage is incredibly fickle and still hard to get to. Text editing and the keyboard are awkward and frustrating as well. In general, I find a huge amount of hidden friction on iOS that I don’t find on Android.

hansel_der 5y ago
> Apps don’t run in the background afaik there's a setting for that (feature not a bug :)
- bmitc 5y ago
  There is, and it’s turned on. Still doesn’t work unless I leave OneDrive open. “Just works.”
  - drcongo 5y ago
    That's the OneDrive app failing you I'm afraid, plenty of apps do this without issue.
    - bmitc 5y ago
      Doesn’t have the issue on Android, and doesn’t negate iOS having poor multitasking. This happens a lot for other apps too. Also, Android has picture-in-picture for many apps.
      - drcongo 5y ago
        So does iOS.
    - muthuraj57 5y ago
      I don't agree with this. I use Google Photos to upload all my pictures and videos and it also gets killed when in background. Apple's iMovie app literally asks you to not put the app into background when rendering the video. This shows that apps in background will get killed mercilessly. Some Apple fans might argue this is better for battery, but it feels so primitive for me in 2021 to use a "smartphone" only to use one app at a time. Try sending media in whatsapp or post a media in Instagram/Facebook in low network condition and putting the app in background. It is literally impossible to do this in iPhone.

jareklupinski 5y ago

yesterday I wanted to transfer some photos i took using my iphone to a family member's PC turns out you need to toggle a setting in photos with the least helpful label ever. there is no indication this is the fix from the ios or PC side, and you can even transfer a few files over before the error pops up: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8351572 https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8351572 that post was made 3 years ago on an android phone, the phone just shows up as a drive and lets you transfer any photos normally, "it just works" lmao