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As someone who uses Safari with its built in list of search providers, I'm rather stuck with DDG for address bar searches, but boy it has really started to suck

As someone who uses Safari with its built in list of search providers, I'm rather stuck with DDG for address bar searches, but boy it has really started to suck over the last year or two.

jeroenhd 5y ago
> with its built in list of search providers TIL. That's just... terrible UX.
boomboomsubban 5y ago
You could always do !searx
- drcongo 5y ago
  True! I'm experimenting with Ecosia right now, but also recently got on the beta for the kagi.com search engine which so far has proven to be vasty superior to any other that I've tried.
  - SyzygistSix 5y ago
    Nothing in their FAQ answers where they are located and they dance around the question of what info they track/keep by saying that they keep the minimum. That is a non-answer. I like the idea in theory but in practice I have no idea who I'm dealing with. They could be far more open about their processes. I like the idea of a paid browser though.
ColinHayhurst 5y ago
Yes, Safari is the worst offender when it comes to offering search choice on desktop. On iOS using a new app called Hyperweb you can the new Safari extensions to access and create a longer preferences list. https://hyperweb.app/ https://hyperweb.app/ We really shouldn't have to choose this or that, but should be able to easily use multiple choices in search. You can do that today as explained here, but you'll need to switch browsers. https://blog.mojeek.com/2021/09/multiple-choice-in-search.html https://blog.mojeek.com/2021/09/multiple-choice-in-search.ht...
bombadilo 5y ago
So don't use Safari then? Seems like a pretty simple solution.
- sixothree 5y ago
  Edge is available for Mac.
- drcongo 5y ago
  Chrome destroys the battery on my laptop and is basically spyware these days, the Chrome-alikes are all dreadful - Vivaldi has the jankiest UI ever, Brave is unbearably sluggish, Edge runs processes that I didn't ask for like Microsoft Updater that bugs me constantly and spams the new tab screen with all sorts of low rent junk that I can't remove. Firefox is my developing browser and I do really like it, but Safari my actual browsing browser because it's by far the best browsing browser on Macs.
  - boogies 5y ago
    If you leave macOS you can get much better frontends for WebKit, from the simple, rather Safari-like GNOME Web (AKA Epiphany) to the powerful Pentadactyl-like luakit.
  - xanaxagoras 5y ago
    I've landed on Librewolf for personal, ungoogled chromium for work. It's great so far, been on this setup for a few months.

As someone who uses Safari with its built in list of search providers, I'm rather stuck with DDG for address bar searches, but boy it has really started to suck over the last year or two.

jeroenhd 5y ago

> with its built in list of search providers TIL. That's just... terrible UX.

boomboomsubban 5y ago

You could always do !searx

drcongo 5y ago
True! I'm experimenting with Ecosia right now, but also recently got on the beta for the kagi.com search engine which so far has proven to be vasty superior to any other that I've tried.
- SyzygistSix 5y ago
  Nothing in their FAQ answers where they are located and they dance around the question of what info they track/keep by saying that they keep the minimum. That is a non-answer. I like the idea in theory but in practice I have no idea who I'm dealing with. They could be far more open about their processes. I like the idea of a paid browser though.

ColinHayhurst 5y ago

Yes, Safari is the worst offender when it comes to offering search choice on desktop. On iOS using a new app called Hyperweb you can the new Safari extensions to access and create a longer preferences list. https://hyperweb.app/ https://hyperweb.app/ We really shouldn't have to choose this or that, but should be able to easily use multiple choices in search. You can do that today as explained here, but you'll need to switch browsers. https://blog.mojeek.com/2021/09/multiple-choice-in-search.html https://blog.mojeek.com/2021/09/multiple-choice-in-search.ht...

bombadilo 5y ago

So don't use Safari then? Seems like a pretty simple solution.

sixothree 5y ago
Edge is available for Mac.
drcongo 5y ago
Chrome destroys the battery on my laptop and is basically spyware these days, the Chrome-alikes are all dreadful - Vivaldi has the jankiest UI ever, Brave is unbearably sluggish, Edge runs processes that I didn't ask for like Microsoft Updater that bugs me constantly and spams the new tab screen with all sorts of low rent junk that I can't remove. Firefox is my developing browser and I do really like it, but Safari my actual browsing browser because it's by far the best browsing browser on Macs.
- boogies 5y ago
  If you leave macOS you can get much better frontends for WebKit, from the simple, rather Safari-like GNOME Web (AKA Epiphany) to the powerful Pentadactyl-like luakit.
- xanaxagoras 5y ago
  I've landed on Librewolf for personal, ungoogled chromium for work. It's great so far, been on this setup for a few months.