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It's not that lawyers are overpaid, it's just that they don't compete with the world for prices and they all agree on certain prices in their own market. You ca

by deleo 15y ago

It's not that lawyers are overpaid, it's just that they don't compete with the world for prices and they all agree on certain prices in their own market. You can't outsource a lawyer to India because he most likely doesn't know US law. Also we programmer have this extraordinarily poor ability to SELL ourselves. We should try to factor in the time we bill the time it took us to get to that kind of knowledge we have, like pharma companies factor in the cost of research and then sell a single blue pill at 20US a pop!

billconan 15y ago
right. Software engineering is a global thing.
mnutt 15y ago
There's no reason a lawyer in India couldn't learn US law. He probably wouldn't even start very far behind US citizen. The real problem is that he can't set foot in a US courtroom without a visa.
- deleo 15y ago
  Yeah right, even a German lawyer could learn US law, except he wouldn't even be able to call himself a lawyer in US, cause even without the visa he couldn't practice the profession.
- arethuza 15y ago
  Where I am lawyers have to do two years of supervised training in an existing law firm on top of a degree and a postgraduate qualification. You might be able to do that remotely - but it would be pretty difficult to do some things (e.g. how do you attend court?).
- pessimizer 15y ago
  There's an amount of legal work currently outsourced to India - things that can be legally outsourced, that is. Currently, the class of things that can be legally outsourced is small (research + writing + document review.) random google survey: http://www.pangea3.com/ http://www.pangea3.com/ http://sqglobalsolutions.com/ http://sqglobalsolutions.com/ http://www.sunlexis.com/ http://www.sunlexis.com/ http://legal-process-outsourcing.com/ http://legal-process-outsourcing.com/ http://www.legaleasesolutions.com/ http://www.legaleasesolutions.com/ Here's a list last updated in 2008: http://www.prismlegal.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=88&Itemid=70 http://www.prismlegal.com/index.php?option=content&task=... To me, this is indication that there's a flood being held back by legislation.
- crdoconnor 15y ago
  No, the main problem is that he needs a license to practise US law. The most you can get him to do is review or draft documents.

by deleo 15y ago

billconan 15y ago

right. Software engineering is a global thing.

mnutt 15y ago

There's no reason a lawyer in India couldn't learn US law. He probably wouldn't even start very far behind US citizen. The real problem is that he can't set foot in a US courtroom without a visa.

deleo 15y ago
Yeah right, even a German lawyer could learn US law, except he wouldn't even be able to call himself a lawyer in US, cause even without the visa he couldn't practice the profession.
arethuza 15y ago
Where I am lawyers have to do two years of supervised training in an existing law firm on top of a degree and a postgraduate qualification. You might be able to do that remotely - but it would be pretty difficult to do some things (e.g. how do you attend court?).
pessimizer 15y ago
There's an amount of legal work currently outsourced to India - things that can be legally outsourced, that is. Currently, the class of things that can be legally outsourced is small (research + writing + document review.) random google survey: http://www.pangea3.com/ http://www.pangea3.com/ http://sqglobalsolutions.com/ http://sqglobalsolutions.com/ http://www.sunlexis.com/ http://www.sunlexis.com/ http://legal-process-outsourcing.com/ http://legal-process-outsourcing.com/ http://www.legaleasesolutions.com/ http://www.legaleasesolutions.com/ Here's a list last updated in 2008: http://www.prismlegal.com/index.php?option=content&task=view&id=88&Itemid=70 http://www.prismlegal.com/index.php?option=content&task=... To me, this is indication that there's a flood being held back by legislation.
crdoconnor 15y ago
No, the main problem is that he needs a license to practise US law. The most you can get him to do is review or draft documents.