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The other comments already explained it, but I'm wondering how you haven't come across this 'saying' before. It's so overused and also cheesy in my opinion.

• chrisseaton 5y ago
  Lol maybe if people actually did spend millions training their people up front we could do better?
  • exikyut 5y ago
    139,995 employees at Google * 1,000,000 = $139,995,000,000 $140 billion dollars. On training. On the one hand... you know what, I'd love to work in an environment like that. Seriously. On the other hand... what's the argument you make to the CFO in support of this? Honest question, interested to hear answers.
    • chrisseaton 5y ago
      I work part time in the Army. In the Army when you go from their equivalent of junior to mid-level they take you out of your job for eight months of dedicated personal development, before you start your first mid-level job. When you go to their equivalent of senior they take you out for a year. I don't know how much that costs all-in, including the salaries, instructors, facilities, but might be starting to approach a million. That's valuing training!
      • dolmen 5y ago
        Some jobs can be learned on the job. But I'm glad that learning to kill people (military) is not taught that way.
        • chrisseaton 5y ago
          If your job is something like a staff officer in a Brigade, you could learn that on the job, the Google way, because exercising is also 'the job', but they don't get you to do that - instead they take the time to fully pull you out of all work commitments for dedicated personal development. These periods of personal development are about personal skills rather than combat training, which you've already done by this point.
      • secondaryacct 5y ago
        But the army is a cost center! The workers have some money shaved off their salary to pay for an army that allows delinquents and half-disabled to pew-pew guns in the forest, leaving them in peace. It's not comparable to a productive entreprise that needs to build things for people or perish. For instance, if Google fails and cant profit, it cant just shoot at their client until they pay. Your organisation can.
        • chrisseaton 5y ago
          > It's not comparable to a productive entreprise that needs to build things for people or perish. Well we had to build an Army to win against fascism in the Second World War or we all would have perished. And 'perished' means literally dead or subject to fascism, not just going out of business.
          • confidantlake 5y ago
            WW2 was 70+ years ago. The USSR fell 30+ years ago. Military budgets are still incredibly high. The army as it is today does not need to be that efficient. And even during WW2 times the US did not face a credible threat of invasion. The last time the US faced an invasion on the mainland was during the war of 1812.
            • chrisseaton 5y ago
              > The army as it is today does not need to be that efficient. You want the Army to be... less efficient? Spend more for less capability?
              • confidantlake 5y ago
                No I mean that for the US army today the downside to the army being inefficient is that money is wasted. Not great, but not a disaster. For a different country that could mean the country gets invaded or the government collapses (like Afghanistan).
      • handrous 5y ago
        Middle and upper management get there via connections and picking things up on their own. It's unsurprising that they don't want to be subjected to competition with lesser people who can "merely" be trained to do their job as well, or better.
• stackbutterflow 5y ago
  People are born every day. Every day tens of thousands of people will hear about hacker news, the pyramids, Darth Vader being someone's father, for the first time.
  • 1ibsq 5y ago
    It was not meant ill-willed. I was just wondering. Regarding what you said, I think I understand what your point is. On the other hand it makes some difference among whose people you ask - some things are much likelier to be common sense (or at least heard of) than in other places. Whatever.