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But in many regions, you can say the same about electricity. Renewable energy is ~29% of world electricity generation [0]. Just like there's ongoing work to inc
by Youden 5y ago
But in many regions, you can say the same about electricity. Renewable energy is ~29% of world electricity generation [0]. Just like there's ongoing work to increase the share of electricity generated from renewable sources, there's also ongoing work to increase the share of hydrogen generated from renewable sources.
Regarding energy production and costs, if FCEVs can be made to work near-term, they'd actually be a valuable tool to aid in the transition. From [1], if you're using natural gas to power a car (which we will, for years to come), you can use 1.18 to 1.77 MBTU to carry a conventional BEV 300mi, or you can use 0.81 MBTU to carry an FCEV 300mi. That means the fuel can be cheaper and the emissions substantially lower than a BEV during the transition period. By the time the transition period is over, FCEVs may be more mature.
And I think the idea that people will dump FCEV cars assumes too narrow an idea of what an "FCEV" will be. Imagine, for example, a BEV with a hydrogen tank in the back. You can use the batteries for short trips like commuting and hydrogen for extra range when you really need it. This way, people could buy a car with batteries for say 100mi (driving down the cost and weight of the car substantially) knowing that if they need to drive further, the hydrogen tank can carry them a few hundred miles more.
[0]: https://www.iea.org/reports/global-energy-review-2021/renewables https://www.iea.org/reports/global-energy-review-2021/renewa...
[1]: https://www.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2014/03/f9/thomas_fcev_vs_battery_evs.pdf https://www.energy.gov/sites/default/files/2014/03/f9/thomas...
- phicoh 5y agoAny FCEV is basically a hybrid EV. The obvious reason is that the fuel cell doesn't generate enough power. So you need a battery as buffer. When it comes to fossil fuel, any ICE is cheaper than FCEV based on grey hydrogen. It is very unlikely that governments will ban regular petrol or diesel any time soon and at the same time allow grey hydrogen. As long as you can buy ICE vehicles, it is extremely unlikely that anyone will invest in a fine grained hydrogen distribution network. Governments are not going to massively subsidize (distribution of) grey hydrogen. When it comes to green hydrogen, green electricity is cheaper. Fast chargers compete well with filling up with hydrogen. And don't require the extremely delicate distribution structure of hydrogen. In short, FCEV was a thing before Tesla. Before Tesla is was not clear how we would do long range driving, who take initiative to install chargers, etc. Now all of that is sorted out. We also know how to scale the production of batteries. FCEV can go on display next to steam engines.