I think it stems from the inability to realize that it's not the fact that programming is currently done by typing words and symbols into text files that makes

I think it stems from the inability to realize that it's not the fact that programming is currently done by typing words and symbols into text files that makes it hard for some people. But that it requires some ability to break up a problem into simpler tasks and then solving those tasks using discrete actions. The people who can program in no-code environments can also program in all other environments. Sure, there are _LOTS_ of ways to improve the status quo, and any idea should be tried, but I'd much rather explore more interactive programming environments than focus on the input method.