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last I knew (went the other way), there should be a night-train to Vienna (only seated, because not fashionable anymore) and then there is definitely a route yo

by fock 5y ago

last I knew (went the other way), there should be a night-train to Vienna (only seated, because not fashionable anymore) and then there is definitely a route you can book to Bergamo. Problem for the first part (no straight way): rail in yugoslavia is dead except for CCP construction. Problem for the second part the alps. Still, one could probably do Bucharest-Belgrad-Zagreb-Triest-Verona with a very cheap nighttrain (there are rails, so there's no insurmountable problems: https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/38581/train-from-belgrade-to-bucharest https://travel.stackexchange.com/questions/38581/train-from-...). Should be fine for travelling, I think noone should need to commute such a distance anyway...

bserge 5y ago
At which point you could just forget the train and take a bus. Bucharest has buses to practically anywhere in the EU.
paganel 5y ago
I know that some part of it is doable, technically, it's only that increasing the prices of plane tickets until making them non-viable for most of the population will most probably kill the city break industry in Europe. I know it sounds like a first world problem, which in a way it is, but (very) cheap flights combined with no roaming charges were one of the few, concrete things that were actually helping make the European Union an actual distinct political entity. Almost no-one here in the EU actually cares about the European Parliament or about the European politicians and the like, but we greatly appreciate that we can go from Bucharest to Madrid or from Prague to Stockholm almost at a moment's notice and without paying an arm and a leg for it (or at least that was how things were before the pandemic), all this while using our phone in all those locations like we were on our couch at home. I'm afraid that taking that all away will greatly reduce the little European spirit cohesiveness that had managed to get built as a result of what I described above (cheap European flights, no roaming fees), and we certainly need the best and greatest European spirit cohesiveness in these interesting times.

by fock 5y ago

bserge 5y ago

At which point you could just forget the train and take a bus. Bucharest has buses to practically anywhere in the EU.

paganel 5y ago

I know that some part of it is doable, technically, it's only that increasing the prices of plane tickets until making them non-viable for most of the population will most probably kill the city break industry in Europe. I know it sounds like a first world problem, which in a way it is, but (very) cheap flights combined with no roaming charges were one of the few, concrete things that were actually helping make the European Union an actual distinct political entity. Almost no-one here in the EU actually cares about the European Parliament or about the European politicians and the like, but we greatly appreciate that we can go from Bucharest to Madrid or from Prague to Stockholm almost at a moment's notice and without paying an arm and a leg for it (or at least that was how things were before the pandemic), all this while using our phone in all those locations like we were on our couch at home. I'm afraid that taking that all away will greatly reduce the little European spirit cohesiveness that had managed to get built as a result of what I described above (cheap European flights, no roaming fees), and we certainly need the best and greatest European spirit cohesiveness in these interesting times.