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I got one dose of JJ and i was feeling so sick that it was difficult to stand up for two days. The idea of doing that routinely is insane to me.

throwntoday 5y ago
I got covid in march. I had a fever for two days, about two weeks of congestion and mucus, and loss of taste/smell for a month. I had two antibody tests done, july and september. I was positive on both. Got the J&J in setember because it was becoming impossible to do anything without a vaccine card and it was worse than covid. One and a half days of chills, fever, sweating. Whatever antibodies I got from my vaccine will probably disappear before my natural ones. I still don't understand the point of getting people who had a natural immunity to get vaccinated. There is little to no evidence natural immunity is worse, and compelling evidence it is superior to a vaccine (see: Israel study). I remain convinced the CDC is in bed with the pharma companies producing the vaccines.
- effie 5y ago
  Vaccine-induced or natural immunity isn't just about antibodies. Immune system gets to remember the spike protein (vaccine) and other characteristics of the virus (natural immunity) so even if antibodies go down, the body remembers and can create new antibodies on next encounter. So you still have some immunity benefit. Agreed on natural immunity, it would be very unexpected and weird if it was substantially worse than vaccine-induced immunity. And there isn't any evidence of that, afaik.
  - throwntoday 5y ago
    And yet Wolenski, Fauci, the CDC, continue to "reccommend" people get vaccinated regardless of natural immunity and refused to answer the senate on whether they think those with natural immunity should be exempt from vaccine mandates.
    - effie 5y ago
      When officials all push the same narrative and ignore available relevant scientific knowledge that contradicts this narrative, that's how we know they became untrustworthy actors similar to politicians even if they were at some point considered scientists. It is amazing how the narrative pushed from above is everywhere the same, despite many respected scientists pointing out massive holes that smart children can see.
epakai 5y ago
I got one dose of JJ and felt bad the next day. I got covid last week and slept a full day and felt miserable the rest of the week. My folks are sick going on a week and a half now (unvaccinated). Vaccines still seem much preferable to me.

throwntoday 5y ago

I got covid in march. I had a fever for two days, about two weeks of congestion and mucus, and loss of taste/smell for a month. I had two antibody tests done, july and september. I was positive on both. Got the J&J in setember because it was becoming impossible to do anything without a vaccine card and it was worse than covid. One and a half days of chills, fever, sweating. Whatever antibodies I got from my vaccine will probably disappear before my natural ones. I still don't understand the point of getting people who had a natural immunity to get vaccinated. There is little to no evidence natural immunity is worse, and compelling evidence it is superior to a vaccine (see: Israel study). I remain convinced the CDC is in bed with the pharma companies producing the vaccines.

effie 5y ago
Vaccine-induced or natural immunity isn't just about antibodies. Immune system gets to remember the spike protein (vaccine) and other characteristics of the virus (natural immunity) so even if antibodies go down, the body remembers and can create new antibodies on next encounter. So you still have some immunity benefit. Agreed on natural immunity, it would be very unexpected and weird if it was substantially worse than vaccine-induced immunity. And there isn't any evidence of that, afaik.
- throwntoday 5y ago
  And yet Wolenski, Fauci, the CDC, continue to "reccommend" people get vaccinated regardless of natural immunity and refused to answer the senate on whether they think those with natural immunity should be exempt from vaccine mandates.
  - effie 5y ago
    When officials all push the same narrative and ignore available relevant scientific knowledge that contradicts this narrative, that's how we know they became untrustworthy actors similar to politicians even if they were at some point considered scientists. It is amazing how the narrative pushed from above is everywhere the same, despite many respected scientists pointing out massive holes that smart children can see.

epakai 5y ago

I got one dose of JJ and felt bad the next day. I got covid last week and slept a full day and felt miserable the rest of the week. My folks are sick going on a week and a half now (unvaccinated). Vaccines still seem much preferable to me.