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> Implement Edge for Windows 11, make sure links will open in Edge. This was already done. The new ticket would have said something like: "Stop users from bei

> Implement Edge for Windows 11, make sure links will open in Edge. This was already done. The new ticket would have said something like: "Stop users from being able to override the special links that only work in Edge. Make very sure that users have no way of working around this behavior even if they really want to."

nomel 5y ago
Or, another possibility, "special links, that specifically call for edge browser, are opening in unsupported browsers, causing apps to fail"
- pseudalopex 5y ago
  Mostly they're just Bing searches.
  - nomel 5y ago
    At the scale of Windows, "mostly" isn't very useful.
    - pseudalopex 5y ago
      Do you have an example of a link actually needing Edge? And the point is whole categories don't. Search. Weather. News.
oneplane 5y ago
That's a bit too much speculation for me. If there was some technical detail that would show exactly that, sure, but in this case it just seems to be a missing option. A bit like: - "openInBrowser(url)" (the mistake) - "openInEdge(url)" (the malice) - "openInDefaultBrowser(url)" (the one configured by the end-user). I have no idea what they are doing under the hood, but I'm pretty sure some of it can be easily identified for being a mistake, malice or something else. But because I don't know, and apparently neither do most people here, speculation on the effect being the main intent or a side-effect alone is iffy at best. The functional outcome remains the same of course, and I'd rather start out with calling it a bug than anything else. If Microsoft then comes out calling it "works as intended" then yes, that's just nasty.
- pseudalopex 5y ago
  The article explained the details. Microsoft apps put microsoft-edge:// in front of links to make them open in Edge since Windows 10. People worked around it by having another app handle the microsoft-edge protocol. Now Microsoft broke that.
  - oneplane 5y ago
    That's what it explained yes, but that doesn't cover the protocol handler on the shell side at all. Either it's a protocol with a protocol handler or it isn't.
    - pseudalopex 5y ago
      Your meaning is entirely unclear. It was a protocol users could configure like the rest. Now they can't.
      - oneplane 5y ago
        Yes, that is the functional description, and I was writing about the technical implementation. User overrides work on protocols, but if it's not a user override anymore it makes sense that it wouldn't apply the settings since there is nothing to apply to. Just because it "looks" the same doesn't mean it is the same. There is a vague reference about a few KiB of added compiled code and the fact that it's an insider build, but other than that just an exploration of previously valid avenues that no longer apply, and the bundled outrage of assumptions based on a whole lot of nothing. I don't know what the actual implementation is, the article on the website doesn't seem to know, and neither do you. So all we can do is speculate, and it appears some people choose unproductive outrage over technical exploration.
        pseudalopex 5y ago
        The details you dismissed established it wasn't accidentally hard coded. And Microsoft admitted it was intentional.[1] [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-doubles-down-on-its-strategy-to-get-more-windows-11-users-on-edge/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-doubles-down-on-its-...

nomel 5y ago

Or, another possibility, "special links, that specifically call for edge browser, are opening in unsupported browsers, causing apps to fail"

pseudalopex 5y ago
Mostly they're just Bing searches.
- nomel 5y ago
  At the scale of Windows, "mostly" isn't very useful.
  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    Do you have an example of a link actually needing Edge? And the point is whole categories don't. Search. Weather. News.

oneplane 5y ago

That's a bit too much speculation for me. If there was some technical detail that would show exactly that, sure, but in this case it just seems to be a missing option. A bit like: - "openInBrowser(url)" (the mistake) - "openInEdge(url)" (the malice) - "openInDefaultBrowser(url)" (the one configured by the end-user). I have no idea what they are doing under the hood, but I'm pretty sure some of it can be easily identified for being a mistake, malice or something else. But because I don't know, and apparently neither do most people here, speculation on the effect being the main intent or a side-effect alone is iffy at best. The functional outcome remains the same of course, and I'd rather start out with calling it a bug than anything else. If Microsoft then comes out calling it "works as intended" then yes, that's just nasty.

pseudalopex 5y ago
The article explained the details. Microsoft apps put microsoft-edge:// in front of links to make them open in Edge since Windows 10. People worked around it by having another app handle the microsoft-edge protocol. Now Microsoft broke that.
- oneplane 5y ago
  That's what it explained yes, but that doesn't cover the protocol handler on the shell side at all. Either it's a protocol with a protocol handler or it isn't.
  - pseudalopex 5y ago
    Your meaning is entirely unclear. It was a protocol users could configure like the rest. Now they can't.
    - oneplane 5y ago
      Yes, that is the functional description, and I was writing about the technical implementation. User overrides work on protocols, but if it's not a user override anymore it makes sense that it wouldn't apply the settings since there is nothing to apply to. Just because it "looks" the same doesn't mean it is the same. There is a vague reference about a few KiB of added compiled code and the fact that it's an insider build, but other than that just an exploration of previously valid avenues that no longer apply, and the bundled outrage of assumptions based on a whole lot of nothing. I don't know what the actual implementation is, the article on the website doesn't seem to know, and neither do you. So all we can do is speculate, and it appears some people choose unproductive outrage over technical exploration.
      - pseudalopex 5y ago
        The details you dismissed established it wasn't accidentally hard coded. And Microsoft admitted it was intentional.[1] [1] https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-doubles-down-on-its-strategy-to-get-more-windows-11-users-on-edge/ https://www.zdnet.com/article/microsoft-doubles-down-on-its-...