> no one is skating under the radar at MIT Funny you should say that. A past CEO I worked with was a CS grad from MIT. He would laugh about the fact that "he

> no one is skating under the radar at MIT Funny you should say that. A past CEO I worked with was a CS grad from MIT. He would laugh about the fact that "he could code, but no one would want to use the code he wrote." I've also heard another anecdote about an MIT grad who had excellent grades but who somehow couldn't get any work done on a relatively straightforward project. So yeah, even MIT graduates CS students who aren't the best at code. CS being "Computer Science" means they need to understand the theory, but even an MIT grad isn't guaranteed to be capable and talented in writing code in practice. If there were a "software engineering" major (or certification?) which, among other things, required the student to write nontrivial code, and it was judged by experts, including using subjective design criteria, then maybe we could start using that degree or certification to prove that, at least at the time of the tests, that person could code. But the devil is in the details even then...