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> A man manages to get a win? Typo, I meant a "yes". > What does that even mean, are you talking about the probability of convincing a women to have sex with

by GDC7 5y ago

> A man manages to get a win? Typo, I meant a "yes". > What does that even mean, are you talking about the probability of convincing a women to have sex with a man? I mean a sexual encounter of any kind, real or virtual, real-time or delayed. Enthusiasm for a "yes" comes from the possibility of it being a "no". At least that's how my brain works, and there are some literature pertaining as to how we perceive positive outcomes as the opposite of the negative outcome we lived in fear of. That's the reason why NFL owners don't pay to outright win the SuperBowl and even regular people try to make 2 balanced teams when playing flag football or 5-a-side soccer. Or maybe I am just overthinking it, but I don't mean sex work should be illegal , matter of fact it should be legal...I was just pointing out that paying for sex work moves the joy of receiving a "yes" all the way back to when you receive a paycheck or make a monthly budget and that is not the same thing, so that's maybe why many men don't engage in it.

vmception 5y ago
In my brain it is a form of entertainment that has nothing to do with elevating a scenario built around scarcity or effort or policing sexuality. For me, the enthusiasm of a "yes" is the response of them having a streaming service. I don't really think further than that or extrapolate what specific actions are going to happen there. I do hope to see them naked whether they sent me something on their streamer-persona's snapchat or if I switched to a courtship game or if I ever approached them at all! But if that's not possible then that's fine, and also normal, not really sure why/if that needed to be said. How people look is a factor in whether an interaction is attempted, not really news. I think it is unnecessary to segregate this, and that's my view of almost all sex work. Earn.com which was acquired, was all about paying to reach VC's inboxes and it worked and many VCs participated in it. In your analogy, it would mean less to reach them due to paying for the campaign to get their attention. Its just not a standard that was really brought up. Do I really need to point out the one-to-one relation between how erotic performer's services work on streaming sites?
redis_mlc 5y ago
> maybe I am just overthinking it Making relationships directly transactional is corrosive - that's the problem with OF. Making relationships transitory is also corrosive - that's the problem with Tinder. OF and Tinder are in the process of destroying the West by destroying women psychologically. Already 25% of women are on head meds, and that's rapidly climbing. You can watch the Fresh and Fit YT channel, which has conversations with mainly OF women, to see the effect.
version_five 5y ago
> joy of receiving a "yes" all the way back to when you receive a paycheck or make a monthly budget I think I get it, that there's "thrill of the chase" element that you don't get with paid encounters. There is definitely a difference, but there is still some element of searching for and finding something you're interested in. And that aside, do you not like going to a restaurant because you knew you could as soon as you earned the money to buy the meal? Maybe it's not the same as eating a fish you caught yourself, but it's still enjoyable isnt it?
- GDC7 5y ago
  > And that aside, do you not like going to a restaurant because you knew you could as soon as you earned the money to buy the meal? Maybe it's not the same as eating a fish you caught yourself, but it's still enjoyable isnt it? The difference is that I don't want to have a sexual intercourse with the resturant's chef :)
  - vmception 5y ago
    And I’ve heard the thrill of the chase perspective before. I personally never experience that, and I just like to have - not like opting for sex workers because its easy (and I don’t like how illegal and decriminalized environments lack consumer protection, and I’m not near regulated ones), but in reference to the general population, I would prefer to skip all that. It is fairly predictable for me to be out with other male associates and they want to go hunt/do laps around the venue to approach women in volume and that has never interested me. I create circumstances that women I like would be in. I queue those circumstances up and eventually thats the most common circumstance for me. I find the entire dynamic of men chasing intimacy, and women withholding intimacy pending further compliance, to be unnecessary. It is unnecessarily elevating sex at the expense of rapport, when it can all be intertwined. Regarding transactional relationships, I view that as an option. I like knowing the performers and courtesans, distinct from a random video on pornhub. I like seeing their creativity, schtick, their causes. Its entertainment. Its not different to me than a twitch streamer, or burlesque show, or whatever. I’m not “bored because I didnt chase” or devaluing the person because they offered and again thats just not a thrill I can relate to.

by GDC7 5y ago

vmception 5y ago

In my brain it is a form of entertainment that has nothing to do with elevating a scenario built around scarcity or effort or policing sexuality. For me, the enthusiasm of a "yes" is the response of them having a streaming service. I don't really think further than that or extrapolate what specific actions are going to happen there. I do hope to see them naked whether they sent me something on their streamer-persona's snapchat or if I switched to a courtship game or if I ever approached them at all! But if that's not possible then that's fine, and also normal, not really sure why/if that needed to be said. How people look is a factor in whether an interaction is attempted, not really news. I think it is unnecessary to segregate this, and that's my view of almost all sex work. Earn.com which was acquired, was all about paying to reach VC's inboxes and it worked and many VCs participated in it. In your analogy, it would mean less to reach them due to paying for the campaign to get their attention. Its just not a standard that was really brought up. Do I really need to point out the one-to-one relation between how erotic performer's services work on streaming sites?

redis_mlc 5y ago

> maybe I am just overthinking it Making relationships directly transactional is corrosive - that's the problem with OF. Making relationships transitory is also corrosive - that's the problem with Tinder. OF and Tinder are in the process of destroying the West by destroying women psychologically. Already 25% of women are on head meds, and that's rapidly climbing. You can watch the Fresh and Fit YT channel, which has conversations with mainly OF women, to see the effect.

version_five 5y ago

> joy of receiving a "yes" all the way back to when you receive a paycheck or make a monthly budget I think I get it, that there's "thrill of the chase" element that you don't get with paid encounters. There is definitely a difference, but there is still some element of searching for and finding something you're interested in. And that aside, do you not like going to a restaurant because you knew you could as soon as you earned the money to buy the meal? Maybe it's not the same as eating a fish you caught yourself, but it's still enjoyable isnt it?

GDC7 5y ago
> And that aside, do you not like going to a restaurant because you knew you could as soon as you earned the money to buy the meal? Maybe it's not the same as eating a fish you caught yourself, but it's still enjoyable isnt it? The difference is that I don't want to have a sexual intercourse with the resturant's chef :)
- vmception 5y ago
  And I’ve heard the thrill of the chase perspective before. I personally never experience that, and I just like to have - not like opting for sex workers because its easy (and I don’t like how illegal and decriminalized environments lack consumer protection, and I’m not near regulated ones), but in reference to the general population, I would prefer to skip all that. It is fairly predictable for me to be out with other male associates and they want to go hunt/do laps around the venue to approach women in volume and that has never interested me. I create circumstances that women I like would be in. I queue those circumstances up and eventually thats the most common circumstance for me. I find the entire dynamic of men chasing intimacy, and women withholding intimacy pending further compliance, to be unnecessary. It is unnecessarily elevating sex at the expense of rapport, when it can all be intertwined. Regarding transactional relationships, I view that as an option. I like knowing the performers and courtesans, distinct from a random video on pornhub. I like seeing their creativity, schtick, their causes. Its entertainment. Its not different to me than a twitch streamer, or burlesque show, or whatever. I’m not “bored because I didnt chase” or devaluing the person because they offered and again thats just not a thrill I can relate to.