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Creepiest thing I've read on this website by a good margin. "Sex work" is an interesting subject because it divides leftists into those who view it as a furthe

by slibhb 5y ago

Creepiest thing I've read on this website by a good margin. "Sex work" is an interesting subject because it divides leftists into those who view it as a further intrusion of markets into peoples' lives (bad) and those find it "empowering" (good). I have a basically Freudian (conservative) view that repression is necessary for civilization. We're testing that right now. I don't think free-market love will go any better than free love did. We'll see.

vmception 5y ago
I'm glad at how so many people - the performers, the women - are willing to ignore all of this and provide personalized erotic entertainment as the progressives liberalize the supply side and aim to make that safe. The only thing happening here is that I'm pointing out that the discussion of the demand side is comparatively immature. The performers all know the analytics showing such a wide population of consumers. The consumers are mostly silo'd and don't know the breadth of it. Everyone just nods and agrees with the people saying exclusionary prohibitory things so as not to be targeted and vilified as "the creepiest thing". But I think I'm in a good position to help normalize this already existing reality, as I have practically zero consequences aside from a post potentially losing consensus and visibility in tech circles. "Use your platform! Silence is violence!" As the leftists say. To your point, we share the observation that some people exclude forms of female empowerment that overlap with the patriarchy. But its just a venn diagram. From my perspective, the empowerment goal has always been "choice", which some people distort to "not that choice!" because they meant the choice of exploitative labor for a FAANG. The population is actually broad enough to flip on this very fast. They just don't know yet!
ivraatiems 5y ago
What's creepy about it?
- Iefthandrule 5y ago
  Maybe creepy is not the right word, but it seems like something you would do if you lack social skills. Also, "supporting local sex work" is already a thing. They are called brothels or strip clubs.
  - vmception 5y ago
    the “low functioning maladjusted male consumer” worldview is not supporting by any analytics, anywhere, ever. aside from a few misandrist performers, most learn that their viewers and subscribers and clientele are a broad distribution of society and now they have data.
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    - Iefthandrule 5y ago
      You're hung up on the wrong part. Tell me more about how the phrase "locally sourcing your sex needs from the nearest supplier" isn't creepy.
      - vmception 5y ago
        Its assuming there is local entertainment and acknowledging it and choosing it over others.
      - curryst 5y ago
        Because the Protestants told us that sex is "special", and we've been happily carrying on that tradition for nearly 300 years. We consider it sacrilege to talk about satisfying your sexual desires in the same way that you would satisfy your desire for a milkshake. It's not a way that we're used to looking at it, which makes us feel uncomfortable. Looked at from another angle, if we analyzed what filters different dating apps allow you to use, I would bet proximity is 100% present. You can't usually filter on professions, or political beliefs, or whether they have a job, but you can filter by whether they're close to you or not. It's also not like this is some kind of Peeping Tom situation. The performer is well aware their pictures are being sent, and what they'll be used for. Some people may even enjoy it more since they've met the performer in person; again, both sides are consenting adults. It's possible for the client to become a creepy stalker, but even a strong preference for porn from people they've actually met doesn't automatically make someone a creepy stalker. Creepy situations happen when someone makes someone else feel uncomfortable. Nobody actually involved in the situation seems uncomfortable, so I don't see how it can be creepy. You might be uncomfortable, but that says nothing about how the two of them interact. I find it more humorous than creepy to mirror the language of the farm-to-table crowd. Brings to mind images of a Portlandia style character riding one of those big-wheel-in-the-front bicycles to go buy fresh vintage nudes from the farmer's market, explained as images that have just become old enough to be considered vintage.
TheGigaChad 5y ago
I have a view that you are braindamaged.

by slibhb 5y ago

vmception 5y ago

I'm glad at how so many people - the performers, the women - are willing to ignore all of this and provide personalized erotic entertainment as the progressives liberalize the supply side and aim to make that safe. The only thing happening here is that I'm pointing out that the discussion of the demand side is comparatively immature. The performers all know the analytics showing such a wide population of consumers. The consumers are mostly silo'd and don't know the breadth of it. Everyone just nods and agrees with the people saying exclusionary prohibitory things so as not to be targeted and vilified as "the creepiest thing". But I think I'm in a good position to help normalize this already existing reality, as I have practically zero consequences aside from a post potentially losing consensus and visibility in tech circles. "Use your platform! Silence is violence!" As the leftists say. To your point, we share the observation that some people exclude forms of female empowerment that overlap with the patriarchy. But its just a venn diagram. From my perspective, the empowerment goal has always been "choice", which some people distort to "not that choice!" because they meant the choice of exploitative labor for a FAANG. The population is actually broad enough to flip on this very fast. They just don't know yet!

ivraatiems 5y ago

What's creepy about it?

Iefthandrule 5y ago
Maybe creepy is not the right word, but it seems like something you would do if you lack social skills. Also, "supporting local sex work" is already a thing. They are called brothels or strip clubs.
- vmception 5y ago
  the “low functioning maladjusted male consumer” worldview is not supporting by any analytics, anywhere, ever. aside from a few misandrist performers, most learn that their viewers and subscribers and clientele are a broad distribution of society and now they have data.
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  - Iefthandrule 5y ago
    You're hung up on the wrong part. Tell me more about how the phrase "locally sourcing your sex needs from the nearest supplier" isn't creepy.
    - vmception 5y ago
      Its assuming there is local entertainment and acknowledging it and choosing it over others.
    - curryst 5y ago
      Because the Protestants told us that sex is "special", and we've been happily carrying on that tradition for nearly 300 years. We consider it sacrilege to talk about satisfying your sexual desires in the same way that you would satisfy your desire for a milkshake. It's not a way that we're used to looking at it, which makes us feel uncomfortable. Looked at from another angle, if we analyzed what filters different dating apps allow you to use, I would bet proximity is 100% present. You can't usually filter on professions, or political beliefs, or whether they have a job, but you can filter by whether they're close to you or not. It's also not like this is some kind of Peeping Tom situation. The performer is well aware their pictures are being sent, and what they'll be used for. Some people may even enjoy it more since they've met the performer in person; again, both sides are consenting adults. It's possible for the client to become a creepy stalker, but even a strong preference for porn from people they've actually met doesn't automatically make someone a creepy stalker. Creepy situations happen when someone makes someone else feel uncomfortable. Nobody actually involved in the situation seems uncomfortable, so I don't see how it can be creepy. You might be uncomfortable, but that says nothing about how the two of them interact. I find it more humorous than creepy to mirror the language of the farm-to-table crowd. Brings to mind images of a Portlandia style character riding one of those big-wheel-in-the-front bicycles to go buy fresh vintage nudes from the farmer's market, explained as images that have just become old enough to be considered vintage.

TheGigaChad 5y ago

I have a view that you are braindamaged.