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GoboLinux does exactly that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoboLinux https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoboLinux

by selfhoster11 5y ago

DarkWiiPlayer 5y ago
Dammit, I wanted to be the one to mention gobo linux [HN deleted my laughing emoji ffs]
- andai 5y ago
  Beat the system ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ
gavinray 5y ago
How do you deal with lack of being able to just point to "/usr/lib/include" or other things when saying "here's my directory of shared libs"? This is definitely interesting though, and an improvement I would say
- JonathonW 5y ago
  GoboLinux symlinks everything into an FHS-ish structure under /System/Index/ so you still have a single place where binaries/libraries/includes/etc. live. (There are also symlinks from /usr/lib, /usr/bin, and others into /System/Index/ for compatibility with programs where those might be hardcoded.)
  - short12 5y ago
    That actually seems like some low hanging fruit to go on a commit spree correcting code that hard codes paths
    - oblio 5y ago
      GoboLinux is old enough to vote in most countries. So either those low hanging fruits are higher than they seem, or we're all just a bunch of dwarves. My bet is on the second option.
    - matheusmoreira 5y ago
      It is low hanging fruit as far as the software is concerned. Simply parameterize all paths. Will upstream accept such patches though? Sounds unlikely to me.
0des 5y ago
Wow, thanks for the reply, nice find! I did some poking around on my Linux system and even re-arranging the home folder was a task of its own because the system kept trying to replace folders in their original places. I will do some digging in to Gobo and see how they're handling this. Thanks again for pointing this out.
- dotancohen 5y ago
  > the system kept trying to replace folders in their original places. This is the file that you want: $ cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/Downloads" XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_VIDEOS_DIR="$HOME/"
  - yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
    That helps, but be warned that there are still programs running around that just hardcode their paths
    - kaba0 5y ago
      Cries in nixpkgs (Anyone who tried to package a program that hardcodes the “usual” binary paths know the pain)
      - account42 5y ago
        Doesn't nix itself hardcode the nix store path though?
        kaba0 5y ago
        Afaik there is an option to change it, but it is not advisable as that will break the binary cache and you are left with compiling everything yourself. This is due to a technical limitation in that different packages can contain paths everywhere and thus they are inherently part of the resulting hash, on which other packages can depend.

GoboLinux does exactly that: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoboLinux https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/GoboLinux

DarkWiiPlayer 5y ago

Dammit, I wanted to be the one to mention gobo linux [HN deleted my laughing emoji ffs]

andai 5y ago
Beat the system ʕ•ᴥ•ʔ

gavinray 5y ago

How do you deal with lack of being able to just point to "/usr/lib/include" or other things when saying "here's my directory of shared libs"? This is definitely interesting though, and an improvement I would say

JonathonW 5y ago
GoboLinux symlinks everything into an FHS-ish structure under /System/Index/ so you still have a single place where binaries/libraries/includes/etc. live. (There are also symlinks from /usr/lib, /usr/bin, and others into /System/Index/ for compatibility with programs where those might be hardcoded.)
- short12 5y ago
  That actually seems like some low hanging fruit to go on a commit spree correcting code that hard codes paths
  - oblio 5y ago
    GoboLinux is old enough to vote in most countries. So either those low hanging fruits are higher than they seem, or we're all just a bunch of dwarves. My bet is on the second option.
  - matheusmoreira 5y ago
    It is low hanging fruit as far as the software is concerned. Simply parameterize all paths. Will upstream accept such patches though? Sounds unlikely to me.

0des 5y ago

Wow, thanks for the reply, nice find! I did some poking around on my Linux system and even re-arranging the home folder was a task of its own because the system kept trying to replace folders in their original places. I will do some digging in to Gobo and see how they're handling this. Thanks again for pointing this out.

dotancohen 5y ago
> the system kept trying to replace folders in their original places. This is the file that you want: $ cat ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs XDG_DESKTOP_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_DOWNLOAD_DIR="$HOME/Downloads" XDG_TEMPLATES_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_PUBLICSHARE_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_DOCUMENTS_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_MUSIC_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_PICTURES_DIR="$HOME/" XDG_VIDEOS_DIR="$HOME/"
- yjftsjthsd-h 5y ago
  That helps, but be warned that there are still programs running around that just hardcode their paths
  - kaba0 5y ago
    Cries in nixpkgs (Anyone who tried to package a program that hardcodes the “usual” binary paths know the pain)
    - account42 5y ago
      Doesn't nix itself hardcode the nix store path though?
      - kaba0 5y ago
        Afaik there is an option to change it, but it is not advisable as that will break the binary cache and you are left with compiling everything yourself. This is due to a technical limitation in that different packages can contain paths everywhere and thus they are inherently part of the resulting hash, on which other packages can depend.