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Germany hits record new Covid cases in 24 hours

13 points by harambae 5y ago

Arnt 5y ago
I live in Munich. As of yesterday, the 7-day incidence for Bavaria was 97 for the vaccinated and 950 for the unvaccinated, ie. 1% of the unvaccinated are infected per week, a rate which is still increasing steeply. A lot of vaccinated people aren't being very careful. Sigh. From what I hear they're queueing up now, at least. Better late than never.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Plenty of people are behaving as if we could pretend everything was normal again, so we end up in this. Just waiting for all kind of celebrations to be canceled. NRW is going crazy with 11.11, then expect no surprises afterwards.
  - Arnt 5y ago
    Maybe. I personally don't expect many cancellations, there are too many people who don't care what happens to the unvaccinated. When the unvaccinated voters don't want to close or cancel the [insert name] and a large fraction of the vaccinated don't either, then closing/cancelling will not be politically doable.
- yorwba 5y ago
  > the 7-day incidence for Bavaria was 97 for the vaccinated and 950 for the unvaccinated What's your favorite source for this kind of breakdown by vaccination status?
  - Arnt 5y ago
    https://www.kbv.de/html/corona-report.php https://www.kbv.de/html/corona-report.php may be what you want, or perhaps https://www.lgl.bayern.de/gesundheit/infektionsschutz/infektionskrankheiten_a_z/coronavirus/karte_coronavirus/index.htm https://www.lgl.bayern.de/gesundheit/infektionsschutz/infekt... which has newer data but only for Bavaria.
- charbonneau2 5y ago
  > 7-day incidence for Bavaria was 97 for the vaccinated and 950 for the unvaccinated How many vaccinated are getting tested? Are there test mandates for vaccinated in GER? Age breakdown of positive cases? Health status? Any population representative data at all?
  - Arnt 5y ago
    Some, yes in various conditional ways, I posted links to age breakdown and some other population representative data.
cblconfederate 5y ago
The problem with rising infections is the danger of breakaway mutations. The longer we can drag this on until we have effective treatments the better
- sschueller 5y ago
  This is playing the lottery thought. It can go either way. A variant that is much more infectious but not at all lethal could also happen and end the pandemic.
diveanon 5y ago
COVID is here to stay, might as well accept it.
- tibbydudeza 5y ago
  Yep.
angelzen 5y ago
This appears to be the (1st?) Delta wave, hitting NorthWest Europe a few months after UK. Interestingly enough Sweden is doing better, though God knows for how long. https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=DEU~SWE~DNK~NOR~FIN~NLD~GBR https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...
- musicale 5y ago
  Had delta not hit yet, or is a new variant taking hold in Germany? If I recall correctly, during California's surge last fall/winter, health officials and the media were quick to blame the public for bad behavior, but it also turned out that a new variant was taking hold.
  - angelzen 5y ago
    Delta has been suppressed over the summer in NW Europe. Seasonality played a major role. Winter season is upon us, the dam is bursting. There is little hope to control the spread in the longterm, especially after delta. Eventually covid will burn through the population one way or another. Vaccines help dull the sharp edge, hopefully this holds moving forward. The other hope is that a population no longer immunologically naive to the virus will be more resilient, that is waves will be rarer and smaller. Sweden may have a head start, for the rest we have to wait for fall 2022.

13 points by harambae 5y ago

Arnt 5y ago

I live in Munich. As of yesterday, the 7-day incidence for Bavaria was 97 for the vaccinated and 950 for the unvaccinated, ie. 1% of the unvaccinated are infected per week, a rate which is still increasing steeply. A lot of vaccinated people aren't being very careful. Sigh. From what I hear they're queueing up now, at least. Better late than never.

pjmlp 5y ago
Plenty of people are behaving as if we could pretend everything was normal again, so we end up in this. Just waiting for all kind of celebrations to be canceled. NRW is going crazy with 11.11, then expect no surprises afterwards.
- Arnt 5y ago
  Maybe. I personally don't expect many cancellations, there are too many people who don't care what happens to the unvaccinated. When the unvaccinated voters don't want to close or cancel the [insert name] and a large fraction of the vaccinated don't either, then closing/cancelling will not be politically doable.
yorwba 5y ago
> the 7-day incidence for Bavaria was 97 for the vaccinated and 950 for the unvaccinated What's your favorite source for this kind of breakdown by vaccination status?
- Arnt 5y ago
  https://www.kbv.de/html/corona-report.php https://www.kbv.de/html/corona-report.php may be what you want, or perhaps https://www.lgl.bayern.de/gesundheit/infektionsschutz/infektionskrankheiten_a_z/coronavirus/karte_coronavirus/index.htm https://www.lgl.bayern.de/gesundheit/infektionsschutz/infekt... which has newer data but only for Bavaria.
charbonneau2 5y ago
> 7-day incidence for Bavaria was 97 for the vaccinated and 950 for the unvaccinated How many vaccinated are getting tested? Are there test mandates for vaccinated in GER? Age breakdown of positive cases? Health status? Any population representative data at all?
- Arnt 5y ago
  Some, yes in various conditional ways, I posted links to age breakdown and some other population representative data.

cblconfederate 5y ago

The problem with rising infections is the danger of breakaway mutations. The longer we can drag this on until we have effective treatments the better

sschueller 5y ago
This is playing the lottery thought. It can go either way. A variant that is much more infectious but not at all lethal could also happen and end the pandemic.

diveanon 5y ago

COVID is here to stay, might as well accept it.

tibbydudeza 5y ago
Yep.

angelzen 5y ago

This appears to be the (1st?) Delta wave, hitting NorthWest Europe a few months after UK. Interestingly enough Sweden is doing better, though God knows for how long. https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explorer?zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&facet=none&pickerSort=asc&pickerMetric=location&Metric=Confirmed+cases&Interval=7-day+rolling+average&Relative+to+Population=true&Align+outbreaks=false&country=DEU~SWE~DNK~NOR~FIN~NLD~GBR https://ourworldindata.org/explorers/coronavirus-data-explor...

musicale 5y ago
Had delta not hit yet, or is a new variant taking hold in Germany? If I recall correctly, during California's surge last fall/winter, health officials and the media were quick to blame the public for bad behavior, but it also turned out that a new variant was taking hold.
- angelzen 5y ago
  Delta has been suppressed over the summer in NW Europe. Seasonality played a major role. Winter season is upon us, the dam is bursting. There is little hope to control the spread in the longterm, especially after delta. Eventually covid will burn through the population one way or another. Vaccines help dull the sharp edge, hopefully this holds moving forward. The other hope is that a population no longer immunologically naive to the virus will be more resilient, that is waves will be rarer and smaller. Sweden may have a head start, for the rest we have to wait for fall 2022.