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https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&threadid=3984488&pagenumber=120&perpage=40#post519160186 https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=0&th... "I have been sitting for hours debating whether or not to disclose this, and I feel like it's something I do need to get off of my chest. Frankly, I'm tried of being quiet. I've mostly had to stay quiet for years about things happening behind the scenes. I've held things inside so long and so hard my chest physically hurt the same way it is now. I considered not sharing this out of respect for Rich's parents and sister, but after thinking on the incredibly vitriolic wall of text Rich's Mother sent to me this morning, saying upon many other things, that his blood is on my hands, I need to share it to regain some sense of control over what's taken place in the past 48 hours. Yesterday I recieved a divorce ruling that would help me and my daughter stay in our home in Canada and allow me to provide a good life for her as well as pay back numerous debts that had accrued during the past two years when I was receiving $350 a month in child support. In the divorce ruling the judge found that Rich had willfully spent down the martial fund, confirmed his treatment of me was Domestic Violence and put together a plan to pay for the attorney fees etc. He would still retain custody settled on previously in mediation. He was due to get our daughter for Christmas. An hour later I was contacted by my attorney who informed me that Rich had shot himself earlier in the morning. So. There it is. His other ex and I got to tell our children that their father died without saying goodbye to them, or that he loved them, or to my knowledge, left a note for them. If you've made it this far thank you for giving me space to let this go so I know longer have to hold onto it. "

kryogen1c 5y ago
"May the good he created stretch on, and the evil be buried with him."
- DonHopkins 5y ago
  That's an apt ewwwlogy.
zebede 5y ago
So he took the coward's way out, knowing that his abuse was about to catch up with him. Pathetic really.
prvc 5y ago
>confirmed his treatment of me was Domestic Violence Wording suggests that adopting an expansive definition of the term (which has undergone substantial concept-creep) was necessary in order for it to have applied to her allegations.
- happytoexplain 5y ago
  The wording suggests the applicability of the term was arrived at via a court ruling, which it was.
  - zionic 5y ago
    *family court ruling That is a very different thing, especially in the US.
- throwaway2048 5y ago
  not quite sure how you are arriving at that conclusion?
  - prvc 5y ago
    It is an interpretation, not a conclusion, based on the premise that one would have known before the ruling whether or not the allegations described an instance of DV, if the term had been interpreted according to its traditional meaning.
    - happytoexplain 5y ago
      >one would have known before the ruling whether or not the allegations described an instance of DV I'm not defending/attacking any person here, since I haven't read further details, but if one goes to court to have something "obvious" decided upon, and then one writes for strangers about it, many (I think even most) people would absolutely use the same wording she used. "The judge confirmed X." I think you're looking too hard for a case that may support some conception you have, instead of accepting that that sentence doesn't have anything insidious in it. Whatever the situation is in reality is coincidental to that sentence.
zionic 5y ago
>Yesterday I recieved a divorce ruling that would help me and my daughter stay in our home in Canada and allow me to provide a good life for her as well as pay back numerous debts that had accrued during the past two years when I was receiving $350 a month in child support. Wow, another victim of the family court system. Sad to see CA's system is just as screwed as the US. Translation: A judge gave me everything I want and ruined him for life, and both I and this judge will never be held accountable for our actions.
- mr_overalls 5y ago
  I would not so quick to judge the circumstances surround their divorce. There are quite serious allegations of physical and financial abuse lasting for years. https://www.gofundme.com/f/helping-a-friend-in-hiding https://www.gofundme.com/f/helping-a-friend-in-hiding
  - tmccrary55 5y ago
    He seems to deny the allegations here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/still-amazed-at-39693289 https://www.patreon.com/posts/still-amazed-at-39693289
    - BlackFingolfin 5y ago
      "Seems" to, but does he? He goes on about how "never been convicted or found guilty of doing shit", points out (correctly) that anyone can allege anything on the internet -- but I don't see him actually deny any of the accusations?
- bigbillheck 5y ago
  Per the gofundme, she got 'approximately 1/5th of the marital estate' plus 2.5 years of alimony. This seems a long way away from 'ruined for life'.
EdwardDiego 5y ago
> His other ex and I got to tell our children that their father died without saying goodbye to them, or that he loved them Wow. This is when I'd suggest indulging in a small white lie, for your children's sake.
- dotancohen 5y ago
  Or don't say either. Don't say "your father died without saying goodbye" and don't say "your father died and said goodby". Just say "your father died". No need for manipulation.
  - EdwardDiego 5y ago
    No need? I disagree, just based on my experiences of raising my children who have a mentally unwell absentee mother. I also disagree it's manipulation, as that implies lying to them to achieve a selfish goal of your own, whereas a white lie is intended to be for their benefit. My younger children still need to hear from time to time that she loves them, even if the obvious reality (to me, and my older children) is that her behaviour demonstrates quite clearly that she doesn't. But, to ease their young minds, and help them sleep when the doubts come, I tell them that she does love them, and always will so, but she's working on some challenges that make it hard for her to tell them in person. To quote Thackeray's Vanity Fair - "Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of little children." (She has supervised access, but won't use it because "she did nothing wrong", and using it appears to her, as an implicit acknowledgement that she did something wrong) I dislike lying to them, and I'll admit I feel angry when I do so - they love her because she's Mom, but she doesn't deserve their love - but it safeguards their mental wellbeing until they're old enough to face the unvarnished truth. I also think of the day my father died, twelve days before I was born. He died smiling (I'm told) despite the intense pain, because of a white lie. He was dying of cancer, and they desperately trying to induce me so he could meet me before he died, but no dice. And they'd been unable to discern my gender via ultrasound. He was desperate to have a son. (this was the 80s, so you know, patriarchy was the norm, etc. etc.) In his last hour, he asked the nurse if his child had been born, and she lied magnificently - yes, you have a beautiful baby boy, he's eight pounds five, congratulations. (Which was not a bad guess, I was eight pounds 10). While they're wildly disparate circumstances, they share a commonality - the unvarnished truth isn't always the best option in some circumstances.

kryogen1c 5y ago

"May the good he created stretch on, and the evil be buried with him."

DonHopkins 5y ago
That's an apt ewwwlogy.

zebede 5y ago

So he took the coward's way out, knowing that his abuse was about to catch up with him. Pathetic really.

prvc 5y ago

>confirmed his treatment of me was Domestic Violence Wording suggests that adopting an expansive definition of the term (which has undergone substantial concept-creep) was necessary in order for it to have applied to her allegations.

happytoexplain 5y ago
The wording suggests the applicability of the term was arrived at via a court ruling, which it was.
- zionic 5y ago
  *family court ruling That is a very different thing, especially in the US.
throwaway2048 5y ago
not quite sure how you are arriving at that conclusion?
- prvc 5y ago
  It is an interpretation, not a conclusion, based on the premise that one would have known before the ruling whether or not the allegations described an instance of DV, if the term had been interpreted according to its traditional meaning.
  - happytoexplain 5y ago
    >one would have known before the ruling whether or not the allegations described an instance of DV I'm not defending/attacking any person here, since I haven't read further details, but if one goes to court to have something "obvious" decided upon, and then one writes for strangers about it, many (I think even most) people would absolutely use the same wording she used. "The judge confirmed X." I think you're looking too hard for a case that may support some conception you have, instead of accepting that that sentence doesn't have anything insidious in it. Whatever the situation is in reality is coincidental to that sentence.

zionic 5y ago

>Yesterday I recieved a divorce ruling that would help me and my daughter stay in our home in Canada and allow me to provide a good life for her as well as pay back numerous debts that had accrued during the past two years when I was receiving $350 a month in child support. Wow, another victim of the family court system. Sad to see CA's system is just as screwed as the US. Translation: A judge gave me everything I want and ruined him for life, and both I and this judge will never be held accountable for our actions.

mr_overalls 5y ago
I would not so quick to judge the circumstances surround their divorce. There are quite serious allegations of physical and financial abuse lasting for years. https://www.gofundme.com/f/helping-a-friend-in-hiding https://www.gofundme.com/f/helping-a-friend-in-hiding
- tmccrary55 5y ago
  He seems to deny the allegations here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/still-amazed-at-39693289 https://www.patreon.com/posts/still-amazed-at-39693289
  - BlackFingolfin 5y ago
    "Seems" to, but does he? He goes on about how "never been convicted or found guilty of doing shit", points out (correctly) that anyone can allege anything on the internet -- but I don't see him actually deny any of the accusations?
bigbillheck 5y ago
Per the gofundme, she got 'approximately 1/5th of the marital estate' plus 2.5 years of alimony. This seems a long way away from 'ruined for life'.

EdwardDiego 5y ago

> His other ex and I got to tell our children that their father died without saying goodbye to them, or that he loved them Wow. This is when I'd suggest indulging in a small white lie, for your children's sake.

dotancohen 5y ago
Or don't say either. Don't say "your father died without saying goodbye" and don't say "your father died and said goodby". Just say "your father died". No need for manipulation.
- EdwardDiego 5y ago
  No need? I disagree, just based on my experiences of raising my children who have a mentally unwell absentee mother. I also disagree it's manipulation, as that implies lying to them to achieve a selfish goal of your own, whereas a white lie is intended to be for their benefit. My younger children still need to hear from time to time that she loves them, even if the obvious reality (to me, and my older children) is that her behaviour demonstrates quite clearly that she doesn't. But, to ease their young minds, and help them sleep when the doubts come, I tell them that she does love them, and always will so, but she's working on some challenges that make it hard for her to tell them in person. To quote Thackeray's Vanity Fair - "Mother is the name for God in the lips and hearts of little children." (She has supervised access, but won't use it because "she did nothing wrong", and using it appears to her, as an implicit acknowledgement that she did something wrong) I dislike lying to them, and I'll admit I feel angry when I do so - they love her because she's Mom, but she doesn't deserve their love - but it safeguards their mental wellbeing until they're old enough to face the unvarnished truth. I also think of the day my father died, twelve days before I was born. He died smiling (I'm told) despite the intense pain, because of a white lie. He was dying of cancer, and they desperately trying to induce me so he could meet me before he died, but no dice. And they'd been unable to discern my gender via ultrasound. He was desperate to have a son. (this was the 80s, so you know, patriarchy was the norm, etc. etc.) In his last hour, he asked the nurse if his child had been born, and she lied magnificently - yes, you have a beautiful baby boy, he's eight pounds five, congratulations. (Which was not a bad guess, I was eight pounds 10). While they're wildly disparate circumstances, they share a commonality - the unvarnished truth isn't always the best option in some circumstances.