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> ”it would essentially dash any hopes of eliminating or eradicating the virus in the U.S. — and therefore in the world” Surely there’s no realistic hope of th

> ”it would essentially dash any hopes of eliminating or eradicating the virus in the U.S. — and therefore in the world” Surely there’s no realistic hope of that anyway. It’s long been assumed than SARS-CoV-2 will become endemic in humans, just like existing human Coronaviruses. https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00493-9 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41577-020-00493-9

bluGill 5y ago
Rubella was endemic for years, but is now eliminated in most counties. With vaccines endemic is a step to elimination in some cases.
- nikbackm 5y ago
  Seems the rubella vaccines have greater efficacy and gives much longer protection (life-long) than the current COVID vaccines though.
  - pvaldes 5y ago
    They had a decade to develop and much more to improve. Nothing prevent us to improve this also.
    - wk_end 5y ago
      There may be hard biological limits to what our vaccines can do. It's certainly possible that vaccines might come along that could let us eradicate SARS-CoV-2; but until they do, that's nothing but wishful thinking.
- Reason077 5y ago
  Yes, Smallpox and Polio would be other examples of successful eradication programs (the later hasn’t been entirely eliminated in the wild, but it does seem like it’s within reach) But those are very different viruses to SARS-CoV-2. Even if we could achieve 100% vaccination coverage, it’s likely that the virus would still circulate because our immunity is not 100% effective at preventing infection and shedding.
dazag 5y ago
People who don't understand respiratory viruses are making absurd claims. We've been trying to erradicate the influenza virus (flu) for more than 50 years. Which means, tons of money has been put to find a cure to something would help everyone and make phrama rich, a win win! But they haven't been able to, and most scientist believe it to be a stupid task which don't know if can ever be achieved, since the animal reservoir of the virus is too big. I knew the vaccine wouldn't work out and more given the fact they were using a new technology never used before. I don't know guys, I am not that smart and could see that coming, I like to think that pharma has been lying to us, otherwise it means, there isn't competent people in the "Virus Field" and you should be worry wheter is one thing or the other

bluGill 5y ago

Rubella was endemic for years, but is now eliminated in most counties. With vaccines endemic is a step to elimination in some cases.

nikbackm 5y ago
Seems the rubella vaccines have greater efficacy and gives much longer protection (life-long) than the current COVID vaccines though.
- pvaldes 5y ago
  They had a decade to develop and much more to improve. Nothing prevent us to improve this also.
  - wk_end 5y ago
    There may be hard biological limits to what our vaccines can do. It's certainly possible that vaccines might come along that could let us eradicate SARS-CoV-2; but until they do, that's nothing but wishful thinking.
Reason077 5y ago
Yes, Smallpox and Polio would be other examples of successful eradication programs (the later hasn’t been entirely eliminated in the wild, but it does seem like it’s within reach) But those are very different viruses to SARS-CoV-2. Even if we could achieve 100% vaccination coverage, it’s likely that the virus would still circulate because our immunity is not 100% effective at preventing infection and shedding.

dazag 5y ago

People who don't understand respiratory viruses are making absurd claims. We've been trying to erradicate the influenza virus (flu) for more than 50 years. Which means, tons of money has been put to find a cure to something would help everyone and make phrama rich, a win win! But they haven't been able to, and most scientist believe it to be a stupid task which don't know if can ever be achieved, since the animal reservoir of the virus is too big. I knew the vaccine wouldn't work out and more given the fact they were using a new technology never used before. I don't know guys, I am not that smart and could see that coming, I like to think that pharma has been lying to us, otherwise it means, there isn't competent people in the "Virus Field" and you should be worry wheter is one thing or the other