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After switching to Thunderbird I can never go back to Gmail. https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ For really important mails

After switching to Thunderbird I can never go back to Gmail. https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ For really important mails I use ProtonMail.

CyberShadow 5y ago
Perhaps odd, but I've had the opposite experience. I switched to Thunderbird at the same time I switched to Linux; after some tweaking, I was mostly happy with it. Then, in some major version, it started frequently freezing up for thirty seconds at a time. Authoring emails in it became impossible. I could not downgrade it because it was version-locked with some system libraries (libnss OSLT). I could not debug it because that was blocked by a bug filed on Bugzilla ten years ago with no fixes or workarounds. Then, in another major version, they killed XUL extensions. I still hope to stop depending on Google services some day, but at that point I would probably switch to or write some webmail with a similar-enough UI to Gmail.
- HeadlessChild 5y ago
  Thunderbird has been PITA due to its major updates that breaks existing add-on's which I tend to use.
- jamienicol 5y ago
  To be fair though, the freeze was probably caused by a xul extension. I switched from Gmail to fastmail last week, after planning to do so "one day" for a few years. Using a mixture of the web client and Thunderbird, just like I did when using Gmail. No regrets so far, I recommend taking to leap!
  - CyberShadow 5y ago
    > To be fair though, the freeze was probably caused by a xul extension. No, it's still there even in the most recent version. (Maybe I just have too much mail?)
LordAtlas 5y ago
I used to use Thunderbird. But Gmail's spam filtering capability combined with their search are something I missed. Unless something has changed in the past 3-4 years.
- capableweb 5y ago
  To make things a bit clearer: Thunderbird is a email client, but doesn't actually hosts emails. Gmail is both a email client, and you can host your email with them. But that doesn't mean you have to use Gmail "The Client" to access Gmail "The Emails". So in short, you can use Thunderbird as a client with your @gmail.com address, so you still have the same spam filter and search, but a lighter and faster UI.

After switching to Thunderbird I can never go back to Gmail. https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/ For really important mails I use ProtonMail.

CyberShadow 5y ago

Perhaps odd, but I've had the opposite experience. I switched to Thunderbird at the same time I switched to Linux; after some tweaking, I was mostly happy with it. Then, in some major version, it started frequently freezing up for thirty seconds at a time. Authoring emails in it became impossible. I could not downgrade it because it was version-locked with some system libraries (libnss OSLT). I could not debug it because that was blocked by a bug filed on Bugzilla ten years ago with no fixes or workarounds. Then, in another major version, they killed XUL extensions. I still hope to stop depending on Google services some day, but at that point I would probably switch to or write some webmail with a similar-enough UI to Gmail.

HeadlessChild 5y ago
Thunderbird has been PITA due to its major updates that breaks existing add-on's which I tend to use.
jamienicol 5y ago
To be fair though, the freeze was probably caused by a xul extension. I switched from Gmail to fastmail last week, after planning to do so "one day" for a few years. Using a mixture of the web client and Thunderbird, just like I did when using Gmail. No regrets so far, I recommend taking to leap!
- CyberShadow 5y ago
  > To be fair though, the freeze was probably caused by a xul extension. No, it's still there even in the most recent version. (Maybe I just have too much mail?)

LordAtlas 5y ago

I used to use Thunderbird. But Gmail's spam filtering capability combined with their search are something I missed. Unless something has changed in the past 3-4 years.

capableweb 5y ago
To make things a bit clearer: Thunderbird is a email client, but doesn't actually hosts emails. Gmail is both a email client, and you can host your email with them. But that doesn't mean you have to use Gmail "The Client" to access Gmail "The Emails". So in short, you can use Thunderbird as a client with your @gmail.com address, so you still have the same spam filter and search, but a lighter and faster UI.