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Cologne, one of the bigger/biggest German cities, has a provider that tries to give fiber to every household. You can get a 100 MBit plan from them (not sure ab

Cologne, one of the bigger/biggest German cities, has a provider that tries to give fiber to every household. You can get a 100 MBit plan from them (not sure about the upstream right now. Probably much less, maybe 10?). The call it the most modern network in Europe (are they? No clue), market it as CitynetCologne. It's affordable and available for a good part of 1.000.000 people. Is Google Fiber really big news? And - tin foil hat on - would you want Google to be your ISP..?

simonsarris 15y ago
If I had a choice between Google and Comcast? Yeah I'd take Google.
- darklajid 15y ago
  You're arguing service (I guess. I've no clue about Comcast). I'm arguing that your ISP knows _everything_ about you, unless you are really making sure that you're using encryption everywhere. Now - you'd opt in for a plan that gives you great access to the network where all traffic is handled by the company that stores everything forever and ever and already owns most of your online activities? Really? Maybe I'm _seriously_ paranoid, but I'd never fall for that. Free, like in the article? Maybe. With precautions. But that won't last forever, so they will be announcing a plan. And at that point I cannot imagine supporting G anymore. You're feeding the beast..
  - ak217 15y ago
    Yeah, you're seriously paranoid.
  - wmf 15y ago
    Google is not going to look at your traffic, because if they did they'd be hit with something ten times worse than the street view fiasco.
    - marshray 15y ago
      Your ISP likely looks at your traffic. What makes you think Google will not?
      - DasIch 15y ago
        Unless you live in a country with basically no privacy laws your ISP will almost certainly not.
calloc 15y ago
Amsterdam also has a city-wide open fiber network: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterdam-was-wired-for-open-access-fiber.ars http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterda...
white_devil 15y ago
Sweden has had 100/100Mbit connections for ages.
danieldk 15y ago
The two largest cable providers in The Netherlands offer 120/10MBit internet[1]. I think they offer it in most areas, so they have a reach of millions. So, it's not really that big news, except for the larger upstream. However, for most consumers upstream is probably not that important. [1] 120MBit is what they advertise, I usually get 130MBit downstream.

simonsarris 15y ago

If I had a choice between Google and Comcast? Yeah I'd take Google.

darklajid 15y ago
You're arguing service (I guess. I've no clue about Comcast). I'm arguing that your ISP knows _everything_ about you, unless you are really making sure that you're using encryption everywhere. Now - you'd opt in for a plan that gives you great access to the network where all traffic is handled by the company that stores everything forever and ever and already owns most of your online activities? Really? Maybe I'm _seriously_ paranoid, but I'd never fall for that. Free, like in the article? Maybe. With precautions. But that won't last forever, so they will be announcing a plan. And at that point I cannot imagine supporting G anymore. You're feeding the beast..
- ak217 15y ago
  Yeah, you're seriously paranoid.
- wmf 15y ago
  Google is not going to look at your traffic, because if they did they'd be hit with something ten times worse than the street view fiasco.
  - marshray 15y ago
    Your ISP likely looks at your traffic. What makes you think Google will not?
    - DasIch 15y ago
      Unless you live in a country with basically no privacy laws your ISP will almost certainly not.

calloc 15y ago

Amsterdam also has a city-wide open fiber network: http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterdam-was-wired-for-open-access-fiber.ars http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/03/how-amsterda...

white_devil 15y ago

Sweden has had 100/100Mbit connections for ages.

danieldk 15y ago

The two largest cable providers in The Netherlands offer 120/10MBit internet[1]. I think they offer it in most areas, so they have a reach of millions. So, it's not really that big news, except for the larger upstream. However, for most consumers upstream is probably not that important. [1] 120MBit is what they advertise, I usually get 130MBit downstream.