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I may never buy a new car again. Literally zero “smart” features that have ever been advertised in cars sound like a net benefit to my use case, but they all so

by advael 5y ago

I may never buy a new car again. Literally zero “smart” features that have ever been advertised in cars sound like a net benefit to my use case, but they all sound like a massive breach of my privacy and sometimes even autonomy. I support every law that makes this sort of telemetry and tracking harder - up to and including completely illegal - and don’t care in the slightest if it destroys the extant industry altogether

jim-jim-jim 5y ago
Forreal. That's the monkey paw about the shift towards electric vehicles: every single one of them is going to be a user-hostile piece of shit.
userbinator 5y ago
I've "smartened" my ~50-year-old daily driver with a bunch of electronics and various upgrades. There's plenty of options in the aftermarket, which you have complete control over. Or put another way, I'd rather have more smiles per gallon than miles per gallon...
- WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
  > I've "smartened" my ~50-year-old daily driver with a bunch of electronics and various upgrades. Got a 69 XL, a 63 Dart and a 61 Sunliner. How they were made is the entire point.
devilbunny 5y ago
I posted a similar comment elsewhere. No tracking. No smarts to speak of - I do like Bluetooth, but I put a basic aftermarket Bluetooth unit in my 20-year-old car back when it was only 10 years old, and I'm still using the same one. Tactile volume knob. Physical controls for heating and cooling. I do have to take the key out of my pocket to push the remote entry button and put it in the ignition to start it (though if I really wanted to, I could get an aftermarket that would make it act like a modern push-to-start). I would like heated and ventilated seats, but really - other than creature comforts like that, and modern safety features like ABS and crumple zones, I'm perfectly happy with a 1975 user interface for my car.

by advael 5y ago

jim-jim-jim 5y ago

Forreal. That's the monkey paw about the shift towards electric vehicles: every single one of them is going to be a user-hostile piece of shit.

userbinator 5y ago

I've "smartened" my ~50-year-old daily driver with a bunch of electronics and various upgrades. There's plenty of options in the aftermarket, which you have complete control over. Or put another way, I'd rather have more smiles per gallon than miles per gallon...

WarOnPrivacy 5y ago
> I've "smartened" my ~50-year-old daily driver with a bunch of electronics and various upgrades. Got a 69 XL, a 63 Dart and a 61 Sunliner. How they were made is the entire point.

devilbunny 5y ago

I posted a similar comment elsewhere. No tracking. No smarts to speak of - I do like Bluetooth, but I put a basic aftermarket Bluetooth unit in my 20-year-old car back when it was only 10 years old, and I'm still using the same one. Tactile volume knob. Physical controls for heating and cooling. I do have to take the key out of my pocket to push the remote entry button and put it in the ignition to start it (though if I really wanted to, I could get an aftermarket that would make it act like a modern push-to-start). I would like heated and ventilated seats, but really - other than creature comforts like that, and modern safety features like ABS and crumple zones, I'm perfectly happy with a 1975 user interface for my car.