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Agreed. Here is a video titled "How a simple Django application works" that is 8 minutes long. It has 29 likes and 27 dislikes. It's a pretty poor quality video

Agreed. Here is a video titled "How a simple Django application works" that is 8 minutes long. It has 29 likes and 27 dislikes. It's a pretty poor quality video, in my opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU2SeliQvMM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JU2SeliQvMM

greggman3 5y ago
56 total votes is a signal to me that is not a good tutorial. No need for a like/dislike ratio
- nameisname 5y ago
  On a video with 45,000 views I think the number of votes total doesn't matter as much as how many are up and down.
  - dsizzle 5y ago
    So if there was a similar video with the same views and likes but 0 downvotes you think it'd be significantly better? I'd guess the difference was noise.
    - rhizome 5y ago
      I mean "maybe," right? It just seems like a sample-size problem rather than indicating any bias one way or another. And of course, as far as these things go, you only find out the quality after you watch some or all of it.
      - dsizzle 5y ago
        Yes, I agree. (I was just using the example given, which probably wasn't the best example for illustrating the value of public downvote counts.) BTW, I should have known that if I questioned the value of public downvotes on a thread of downvoting enthusiasts that I would... get downvoted.
- fouc 5y ago
  it's a video with low number of views though, 56 total votes is probably not a signal in that case.
  - londons_explore 5y ago
    56 samples on a stochastic process gives a pretty narrow normal curve...
- OJFord 5y ago
  Take away the dislike count and you take away the total count too.
supernovae 5y ago
Perhaps youtube is the wrong medium for a lot of things and dislikes may not be the best way to express that. Youtube is borderline stupid right now for most channels that don't have organic growth... what they should do is re-open monetization and live streaming to everyone as its creating its own hell hole if you ask me with the 9 minutes of smash the like button and 1 minute of content we're seeing on every channel that isn't organically growing or making money through other means.
- rhizome 5y ago
  They've changed the sidebar algo/design in the past six months or so and I tell ya, I used to actually use it, but not anymore at all. It's basically been remodeled into the same "front page" business case as Soundcloud, Amazon, and any other "choose from a variety of things that may or may not be sponsored (but almost always are) and only ever relate to your watch history by chance."

greggman3 5y ago

56 total votes is a signal to me that is not a good tutorial. No need for a like/dislike ratio

nameisname 5y ago
On a video with 45,000 views I think the number of votes total doesn't matter as much as how many are up and down.
- dsizzle 5y ago
  So if there was a similar video with the same views and likes but 0 downvotes you think it'd be significantly better? I'd guess the difference was noise.
  - rhizome 5y ago
    I mean "maybe," right? It just seems like a sample-size problem rather than indicating any bias one way or another. And of course, as far as these things go, you only find out the quality after you watch some or all of it.
    - dsizzle 5y ago
      Yes, I agree. (I was just using the example given, which probably wasn't the best example for illustrating the value of public downvote counts.) BTW, I should have known that if I questioned the value of public downvotes on a thread of downvoting enthusiasts that I would... get downvoted.
fouc 5y ago
it's a video with low number of views though, 56 total votes is probably not a signal in that case.
- londons_explore 5y ago
  56 samples on a stochastic process gives a pretty narrow normal curve...
OJFord 5y ago
Take away the dislike count and you take away the total count too.

supernovae 5y ago

Perhaps youtube is the wrong medium for a lot of things and dislikes may not be the best way to express that. Youtube is borderline stupid right now for most channels that don't have organic growth... what they should do is re-open monetization and live streaming to everyone as its creating its own hell hole if you ask me with the 9 minutes of smash the like button and 1 minute of content we're seeing on every channel that isn't organically growing or making money through other means.

rhizome 5y ago
They've changed the sidebar algo/design in the past six months or so and I tell ya, I used to actually use it, but not anymore at all. It's basically been remodeled into the same "front page" business case as Soundcloud, Amazon, and any other "choose from a variety of things that may or may not be sponsored (but almost always are) and only ever relate to your watch history by chance."