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> Request early access ( https://bun.sh/discord https://bun.sh/discord ) Welp, that's a "close window" for me, and I guess it's my fault for putting up with th

> Request early access ( https://bun.sh/discord https://bun.sh/discord ) Welp, that's a "close window" for me, and I guess it's my fault for putting up with the hot pink background long enough to even read the page I'll let others chime in with the obligatory "other bundlers are too $whatever, so I made $new_thing that doesn't $other_things_one_needs_to_be_successful"

bredren 5y ago
Is this built on esbuild? I was okay putting in my email but I don’t want to join a discord.
- andai 5y ago
  Sounds like it does everything by itself, in a single tool.
- phsilva 5y ago
  Yes, look like it is. "It’s based on esbuild’s source, but written in Zig. Zig is an LLVM frontend (like Rust) with manual memory management." From https://twitter.com/jarredsumner/status/1390084461799170050 https://twitter.com/jarredsumner/status/1390084461799170050
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  It’s not built on ESBuild, but the AST implementation was derived from it, and a related library Peechy is forked from ESBuild creator’s Kiwi.
eyelidlessness 5y ago
Why the negativity? It’s pre-release software. The landing page and invites are for people already interested in its early development, not to try to convince you to become interested. That said, there’s tons of public information about Bun on the creator’s Twitter[1], a lot of it quite interesting, if more curious folks want to find out more. And I wrote a short list of things I find compelling[2] in the related post about another of Jarred’s projects, for the Twitter-averse. 1: https://twitter.com/jarredsumner?s=21 https://twitter.com/jarredsumner?s=21 2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29180483 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29180483
- airtonix 5y ago
  pink page... elite attitude. yet not typescript support. so much meh.
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    Why this fixation with the pink? Anyway Bun compiles TypeScript. It’s incomplete. It’s not released yet.
- mdaniel 5y ago
  The are two forms of negativity in my comment, which come from different sore spots in my contact with JS bundlers 1. bright pink marketing page that wants me to join Discord just to stand in line for access to some release of this software in the future 1. claims of how great a new bundler is in the face of many, many, many, many, many projects started over the years claiming "oh, yeah, those esbuild jokers are no good, but I used Zig so my bundler is going to work much better" Now I do appreciate that maybe the author wasn't the one who submitted this "pre-release software" page to HN, but nor did I try to comment upon any such twitter thread to express my opinion -- I weighed in on the HN thread as a nod to others who may come to the comments first in order to get the tl;dr before loading up the page Also, if jarredsumner's twitter is the authoritative source for why one should bother joining Discord, then the site would be well served to provide a link to that instead of linking to Zig as the compelling "read here for more info"
  - eyelidlessness 5y ago
    > bright pink marketing page that wants me to join Discord just to stand in line for access to some release of this software in the future The author has been exceedingly clear that he intends to open up access when he feels it’s ready. The Discord link is for people who are already interested and want access before that. That’s not you, and that’s okay. > claims of how great a new bundler is in the face of many, many, many, many, many projects started over the years claiming "oh, yeah, those esbuild jokers are no good, but I used Zig so my bundler is going to work much better" I think this is wildly misrepresenting the author’s disposition. He’s expressed a lot of respect for ESBuild, credits it for aspects of Bun that are either borrowed or direct forks, and has received similar respect from ESBuild’s creator. > Now I do appreciate that maybe the author wasn't the one who submitted this "pre-release software" page to HN, but nor did I try to comment upon any such twitter thread to express my opinion -- I weighed in on the HN thread as a nod to others who may come to the comments first in order to get the tl;dr before loading up the page > Also, if jarredsumner's twitter is the authoritative source for why one should bother joining Discord, then the site would be well served to provide a link to that instead of linking to Zig as the compelling "read here for more info" The author did not, in fact, submit this. And it’s the other way around: AFAIK before this hit HN the way people found bun.sh was specifically by way of Jarred’s Twitter. I can see how that might be confusing with the context inverted. And I can see how this link, without prior context, might not be valuable to you. I’m very interested in the project and I certainly wouldn’t have posted this link at this time. But I think one small bit of assuming good faith might be warranted from HN users before reacting negatively: at least try to remember that people share all sorts of interesting-to-them things all the time, and they might not be representing the thing itself or its creator.
tomphoolery 5y ago
taking bets that $whatever is Rust and $other_things_one_needs_to_be_successful is an ecosystem.

bredren 5y ago

Is this built on esbuild? I was okay putting in my email but I don’t want to join a discord.

andai 5y ago
Sounds like it does everything by itself, in a single tool.
phsilva 5y ago
Yes, look like it is. "It’s based on esbuild’s source, but written in Zig. Zig is an LLVM frontend (like Rust) with manual memory management." From https://twitter.com/jarredsumner/status/1390084461799170050 https://twitter.com/jarredsumner/status/1390084461799170050
eyelidlessness 5y ago
It’s not built on ESBuild, but the AST implementation was derived from it, and a related library Peechy is forked from ESBuild creator’s Kiwi.

eyelidlessness 5y ago

Why the negativity? It’s pre-release software. The landing page and invites are for people already interested in its early development, not to try to convince you to become interested. That said, there’s tons of public information about Bun on the creator’s Twitter[1], a lot of it quite interesting, if more curious folks want to find out more. And I wrote a short list of things I find compelling[2] in the related post about another of Jarred’s projects, for the Twitter-averse. 1: https://twitter.com/jarredsumner?s=21 https://twitter.com/jarredsumner?s=21 2: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29180483 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=29180483

airtonix 5y ago
pink page... elite attitude. yet not typescript support. so much meh.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  Why this fixation with the pink? Anyway Bun compiles TypeScript. It’s incomplete. It’s not released yet.
mdaniel 5y ago
The are two forms of negativity in my comment, which come from different sore spots in my contact with JS bundlers 1. bright pink marketing page that wants me to join Discord just to stand in line for access to some release of this software in the future 1. claims of how great a new bundler is in the face of many, many, many, many, many projects started over the years claiming "oh, yeah, those esbuild jokers are no good, but I used Zig so my bundler is going to work much better" Now I do appreciate that maybe the author wasn't the one who submitted this "pre-release software" page to HN, but nor did I try to comment upon any such twitter thread to express my opinion -- I weighed in on the HN thread as a nod to others who may come to the comments first in order to get the tl;dr before loading up the page Also, if jarredsumner's twitter is the authoritative source for why one should bother joining Discord, then the site would be well served to provide a link to that instead of linking to Zig as the compelling "read here for more info"
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  > bright pink marketing page that wants me to join Discord just to stand in line for access to some release of this software in the future The author has been exceedingly clear that he intends to open up access when he feels it’s ready. The Discord link is for people who are already interested and want access before that. That’s not you, and that’s okay. > claims of how great a new bundler is in the face of many, many, many, many, many projects started over the years claiming "oh, yeah, those esbuild jokers are no good, but I used Zig so my bundler is going to work much better" I think this is wildly misrepresenting the author’s disposition. He’s expressed a lot of respect for ESBuild, credits it for aspects of Bun that are either borrowed or direct forks, and has received similar respect from ESBuild’s creator. > Now I do appreciate that maybe the author wasn't the one who submitted this "pre-release software" page to HN, but nor did I try to comment upon any such twitter thread to express my opinion -- I weighed in on the HN thread as a nod to others who may come to the comments first in order to get the tl;dr before loading up the page > Also, if jarredsumner's twitter is the authoritative source for why one should bother joining Discord, then the site would be well served to provide a link to that instead of linking to Zig as the compelling "read here for more info" The author did not, in fact, submit this. And it’s the other way around: AFAIK before this hit HN the way people found bun.sh was specifically by way of Jarred’s Twitter. I can see how that might be confusing with the context inverted. And I can see how this link, without prior context, might not be valuable to you. I’m very interested in the project and I certainly wouldn’t have posted this link at this time. But I think one small bit of assuming good faith might be warranted from HN users before reacting negatively: at least try to remember that people share all sorts of interesting-to-them things all the time, and they might not be representing the thing itself or its creator.

tomphoolery 5y ago

taking bets that $whatever is Rust and $other_things_one_needs_to_be_successful is an ecosystem.